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Staude on 23 August 2009
Soriku said:
It won't be Tekken if it's not played on a PS controller?

So FF isn't FF because it'll be played on a 360 controller? So Call of Duty isn't CoD because it can be played on a DS? So Zelda isn't Zelda because it uses motion controls on the Wii now?

you're kidding ?

wow

seriously ?

 

wow

 

No .. Let me try one more time.

 

Ok Tekken controls with 4 buttons each controlling one limb of your body. If you change those controls. Then it doesn't control like tekken anymore. How hard can it be to understand ? I mean seriously wow ! holy shit. Do you just keep at this for kicks ? because i've made it painfully obvious over many posts now and yet you stick to defending it. I don't even think you want to play tekken. You just can't stand that they chose to release it on the psp and not the wii.

 

Oh and it will control worse on the 360 controller. It has a bad D-pad.

 

 



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Pristine20 on 23 August 2009
Viper1 said:
Harada's reason is not a valid excuse.

If that is their sole reasoning behind their decision, it is absolutely pathetic.

My question to you is exactly why does a developer even have to give you an excuse? They're not making a wii version end of story. If it costs them extra potential sales, it is their problem. Back in the day, the vast majority of games were exclusive and people just accepted things the way they were. Ever since ps3 and 360 started switching games left and right, people have acquired a very disgusting sense of entitlement.

I think it would've been obvious to any tekken fan that the wii wasn't the best console to get if they wanted tekken 6. The sad part is that the vast majority of you who are whining wouldn't even get tekken 6 wii if it was released.

To those claiming wii has  a large fighting game audience because of SSBB: Every smash bros fan knows that the wii is the only choice if they wanted SSBB. I even know a guy who has a wii and only SSBB because he's a huge fan and thats all he cares for on the wii. In the same vein, any true tekken fan wouldn't have bought the wii expecting tekken 6...'nuff said.

 

 



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libellule on 23 August 2009

as I have said MANY TIME

the probleme is, according to me, NINTY themselves that dont push enought the port of the HD games to the Wii

I m sure it will not cost so much to port AND it will sell ! !



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Dgc1808 on 23 August 2009
sc94597 said:
Dgc1808 said:
dark_gh0st_b0y said:
they are joking themselves

from the point that DragonBall Z came out for Wii and the controls worked perfec it's stupid to say it cannot happen with SC or Tekken 6 (not to mention DBZ Wii is almost platinum)

but it's their decision, i personally think Namco supports the Wii, even without Tekken and SC

Dragon Ball Z and Tekken are EXTREMELY different fighters.

As are guilty gear, and tekken. I don't see you mentioning that to Okeydokey.

I see many more similarities to the way Tekken and Guilty Gear are played compared to Tekken and Dragon Ball Z... DragonBall Z and tekken is like Smash and Guilty Gear... There's just no sense in comparing...



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Lostplanet22 on 23 August 2009
Soriku said:
What do you mean you're controlling it with one limb of your body? Didn't I say you could play it with other controls no problem?

Also, didn't I say a few pages back that I couldn't care less about the series? I'm only arguing about why it could be done against people like you saying "lol, controls wouldn't work" (but you dismiss other control options and Tekken on a 360 isn't bad while on the Wii it is). I hate fighters so I don't care whatever system it's on because I don't want to play it.

Considering many bought a GC controller to play Brawl well I wonder why you still have to defend it.....

If a Nintendo game wasn't that perfect to play with motion controls you really think it would work well for Tekken 6?



 

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Dgc1808 on 23 August 2009
sc94597 said:
Dgc1808 said:
Soriku said:
That's assuming controls woulc be 1:1 with Playstation controls. Don't you think it'd make sense for them to incorporate appropriate controls? And if you think the controls suck, what's stopping you from buying another controller? And I'm sure lots of people own GC/CC controllers anyway. Besides, they didn'f say controls were the problem so drop it already.

No one's really targetting their excuse, the reason that they put out is rubbish. What people are doing however is giving their opinion on why tekken just wouldn't work on the Wii. As for incorperating proper controlls, how much Tekken have you played? I'd like to hear your idea on a proper tekken control scheme for the wii-mote. As for the GC/CC controlls, not every Wii owner has those. I can't see a large precentage of wii owners buying the CC  and as for the GC controller, the Wii's already doubled the GC's install base and most people have the idea that the Wii is bringing in "New Gamers" as in ones that probably didn't have Gamecube's last gen. I posted my thoughts on focussing on the different controlls a few posts up.

Firstly, like you metioned, there reason was "rubbish", which is pretty much the main topic of this thread. To discuss their reason. Not to discuss whether it should be on Wii or not. As for the control argument. I would like to note that the install base on Wii who would buy Tekken, most likely would also have either a Gamecube or Classic Controller. Your argument would make more sense if they would be expecting to sell it to most, or the whole userbase. Also what is to say that the New Wii owners didn't get into the GC this generation?

What audience??? The 150K Soul Calibur Legends Crowd??? [i'm not familiar with how that gameplays at all]

Perhaps porting the PSP version to the Wii just isn't worth it then if that's the audience you're talking about. When you compare it to the PSP which they already have an engine set and ready to use from TekkenDR, and experience with getting a tekken game out there on PSP [Tekken PSP also has 1.95M sales according to this site.]



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sc94597 on 23 August 2009
Dgc1808 said:
sc94597 said:
Dgc1808 said:
Soriku said:
That's assuming controls woulc be 1:1 with Playstation controls. Don't you think it'd make sense for them to incorporate appropriate controls? And if you think the controls suck, what's stopping you from buying another controller? And I'm sure lots of people own GC/CC controllers anyway. Besides, they didn'f say controls were the problem so drop it already.

No one's really targetting their excuse, the reason that they put out is rubbish. What people are doing however is giving their opinion on why tekken just wouldn't work on the Wii. As for incorperating proper controlls, how much Tekken have you played? I'd like to hear your idea on a proper tekken control scheme for the wii-mote. As for the GC/CC controlls, not every Wii owner has those. I can't see a large precentage of wii owners buying the CC  and as for the GC controller, the Wii's already doubled the GC's install base and most people have the idea that the Wii is bringing in "New Gamers" as in ones that probably didn't have Gamecube's last gen. I posted my thoughts on focussing on the different controlls a few posts up.

Firstly, like you metioned, there reason was "rubbish", which is pretty much the main topic of this thread. To discuss their reason. Not to discuss whether it should be on Wii or not. As for the control argument. I would like to note that the install base on Wii who would buy Tekken, most likely would also have either a Gamecube or Classic Controller. Your argument would make more sense if they would be expecting to sell it to most, or the whole userbase. Also what is to say that the New Wii owners didn't get into the GC this generation?

What audience??? The 150K Soul Calibur Legends Crowd??? [i'm not familiar with how that gameplays at all]

Perhaps porting the PSP version to the Wii just isn't worth it then if that's the audience you're talking about. When you compare it to the PSP which they already have an engine set and ready to use from TekkenDR, and experience with getting a tekken game out there on PSP [Tekken PSP also has 1.95M sales according to this site.]

I agree with this. If you want to go and read any of my posts in this thread before this one you would be able to tell that as well. There still is a fighter audience on the Wii though, or maybe it is the anime one .You can't really tell because almost all the Wii's fighters are also anime-based games.

 



Staude on 23 August 2009
Soriku said:
@axum

I know that but the way he worded it was strange. I know it'd control bad on the Wii remote + nunchuk and that's why I'm saying a GC/CC controller would work but some people dismiss that because they assume only about 5 people would own those controllers when it's pretty obvious millions of people own them and a Tekken on the Wii wouldn't even sell millions anyway...

 

 

I haven't argued that the classic wouldn't work, but that it wouldn't be viable because you can't know who owns it and who doesn't and they can't design the game to just control with those controllers 1. nintendo probably wouldn't allow it if the game can't be controlled with regular controls concidering it's a retail game.

2. You can't expect all users to have it.

3. They can't just bundle it with all copies of the game. It's expensive enough to port the game in the first place.

 

And BOLDED is exacly it. It wouldn't sell well compaired to the other versions.

 

So stop arguing if you aren't arguing it. I've said all along that it wasn't viable. Not that it technically wouldn't work. So start actually reading what im writing. Jeez.



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Lostplanet22 on 23 August 2009

=p I think Staude wants to give Soriku a tekken on his face if this discussion takes on a little more.



 

Lostplanet22 on 23 August 2009
Soriku said:
 

Anyway, what I'm saying is they can keep Wii remote controls (even if they aren't that great) but also make CC/GC/arcade sticks an option...


If that happens I expect:

Reviews:  The game gets a low score and the summary of the most reviews will be:  It is just not playble with the Wii motion controls (don't write anything about how it plays with the CC/GC controls).

Trestress opens thread 'Namco another dev who doesn't put much effort in their Wii games'.

Claude will post 'They are just lazy'

An random Wii owner will start a petition to boycott Namco.



Somehow I am happy Tekken 6 will be not on the Wii.