@rath

Ia gree uncharted should be on there, MGS4 too, FF13 too, GT5 too

but haze & LAIR, give me a break

no-one said they would save the PS3

Before the first previews of Lair came out questioning the controls it was massively hyped on these boards and quite a few members (we had some truly insane and amusing PS3 fans at that time) were championing it as one of the things that would turn the PS3 around.

It was only after the previews and especially the launch that Lair became a bit of a punchline.

I remember Haze was hyped up to be the Halo-killer. It's because of Haze that people didn't think KZ2 would look as good as it did. Haze when first announced and the first screenshots came out looked amazing but then *splat* the game released to par reviews and didn't sell well after the first week.

ah I hate Sweden's gamestop.. I asked them yesterday what the slim price would be, and they said around 3800kr (the price on phat is 4400kr, yes.. they haven't reduced price on phat)
And I asked if that price was right, since 600kr less is not a big reduction based on %. That's like reducing from $399 to $349.

Then they said that the recommended price were 3200 kr (which would be correct) but that they weren't going to sell for that price -.- those bastards.

Since the ps3 has such awesome reliability and performance...why would current ps3 owners upgrade? So it would seem that most of the new sales would have to come from new customers...unlike xbox owners, who are looking to trade out the RROD prone older models.

Also, Bestbuy is giving away free 160GB PS3 with a Sony HDTV purhcase, so that should help sales numbers, sicne sony counted that as sales in the past.  M$ should look into that with a partner...maybe Toshiba or Samsung...get a free 360 when you buy one.

That's not worth much to me. Wasn't there talk about The Conduit being sold out everywhere?

The only people making those types of claims about The Conduit were those who had been trying to hype the game up to the gills.

Many retailers simply didn't order higher than usual numbers of units, treating it as any other release, which meant in some locations, initial shipments at individual retail outlets did in fact "sell out." Of course selling out when you only had a dozen units or even less on hand doesn't mean much unless subsequent shipments are larger and also continue to sell out, which is not what happened in the case of Conduit. The game was being discounted significantly by 20-30% within weeks of release by major retail outlets (including Amazon) that most likely ordered too many units relative to demand.

The 80GB PS3, on the other hand, started disappearing from retail outlets the morning of the price drop and has since been removed from the re-order inventory databases at many retailers (Targets in the SF Bay Area no longer have the SKU in their database). What that means, is that there could be a sharp drop in PS3 sales following last week/this week's numbers just prior to the release of the slim, which would demonstrate an unmet demand for a $299 PS3 if they are in limited supply until the slim launch.

As for the slim, sure; initial shipments will likely dry up quickly, but will be replaced just as quickly until lower, more consistent sales are sustained. With the amount of time SCE has had to prep for this re-launch, I have a hard time seeing prolonged shortages through the Fall as they will want to sell as many as possible as soon as possible.

GameStop hasn't "sold out" of anything in reality, considering they don't have a single unit on hand currently. What it means is that they have really just stopped selling pre-orders on units anticipating that they would not be able to honor the volume of pre-orders based on the initial shipments they will be receiving. It's a similar situation with Amazon which resorted to its usual strategy of limiting orders to keep high demand items in stock.