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Bodhesatva on 13 October 2007

I think Mr. Newell is in a position at the moment that makes him rather unassailable to those who wish to discredit him: unlike other developers who criticize any particular system -- be it the Wii, PS3, or 360 -- Gabe Newell happens to be:

1) The head of one of the most well respected game developing firms in the world

2) Developing a game for the PS3 as we speak

Which makes the usual methods for dismissal -- he hates the PS3 because he's developing for 360/Wii, or he's a terrible devleoper so who cares -- unusable. Instead, the reasonable people in this thread are falling back on another argument: he's just one guy, and even if he's a very important guy, other important guys feel differently.

That is a reasonable argument.

As a last note, for those who have chosen to comment on how Gabe Newell is a stupid noob or how fat he is: I think it's quite likely that The Orange Box (360 Metacritic score here: http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/halflife2theorangebox?q=orange%20box ) Will end up being the best reviewed game for the PS3 in its lifespan thus far by the end of Christmas. In other words, this stupid noob has most likely produced the best game your system has had to offer its entire first 1.5 years of existance. 



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MikeB on 13 October 2007

@ Yojimbo

Cant 360/PS3 do such game in several years?


360 not by a long shot, PS3 IMO very likely. Though I think Halo 3 could have been made to render in 720p on the XBox 360 without genuine sacrifices.



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

PS3 vs 360 sales

fagarcia75 on 13 October 2007
konnichiwa said:
X_X Reading all of this is a waste of time.

definately not a good article.  Typically it is good to avoid extremes on one side or the another.  Many PS3 owners would no doubt point out that it is not a waste of time for them.



selnor on 14 October 2007
MikeB said:
@ Yojimbo

Cant 360/PS3 do such game in several years?


360 not by a long shot, PS3 IMO very likely. Though I think Halo 3 could have been made to render in 720p on the XBox 360 without genuine sacrifices.

 Mike b you will never learn will you. sigh. then rolls over board with his sh*t.



Diomedes1976 on 14 October 2007
Bodhesatva said:

I think Mr. Newell is in a position at the moment that makes him rather unassailable to those who wish to discredit him: unlike other developers who criticize any particular system -- be it the Wii, PS3, or 360 -- Gabe Newell happens to be:

1) The head of one of the most well respected game developing firms in the world

2) Developing a game for the PS3 as we speak

Wh

 

wich makes the usual methods for dismissal -- he hates the PS3 because he's developing for 360/Wii, or he's a terrible devleoper so who cares -- unusable. Instead, the reasonable people in this thread are falling back on another argument: he's just one guy, and even if he's a very important guy, other important guys feel differently.

That is a reasonable argument.

As a last note, for those who have chosen to comment on how Gabe Newell is a stupid noob or how fat he is: I think it's quite likely that The Orange Box (360 Metacritic score here: http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/halflife2theorangebox?q=orange%20box ) Will end up being the best reviewed game for the PS3 in its lifespan thus far by the end of Christmas. In other words, this stupid noob has most likely produced the best game your system has had to offer its entire first 1.5 years of existance. 


In fact ,he hasnt ,as the PS3 version was outsourced to some other guys that dont have the same name as Gabe Newell but seems way bette than him to cope with new technologies .

Newell feared multiprocessor ,he feared DirectX 10 ,he fears PS3 .....he just fears to have to do some research and to be separated from his usual and familiar tech and architechture .

 



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selnor on 14 October 2007
Diomedes1976 said:
Bodhesatva said:

I think Mr. Newell is in a position at the moment that makes him rather unassailable to those who wish to discredit him: unlike other developers who criticize any particular system -- be it the Wii, PS3, or 360 -- Gabe Newell happens to be:

1) The head of one of the most well respected game developing firms in the world

2) Developing a game for the PS3 as we speak

Wh

 

wich makes the usual methods for dismissal -- he hates the PS3 because he's developing for 360/Wii, or he's a terrible devleoper so who cares -- unusable. Instead, the reasonable people in this thread are falling back on another argument: he's just one guy, and even if he's a very important guy, other important guys feel differently.

That is a reasonable argument.

As a last note, for those who have chosen to comment on how Gabe Newell is a stupid noob or how fat he is: I think it's quite likely that The Orange Box (360 Metacritic score here: http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/halflife2theorangebox?q=orange%20box ) Will end up being the best reviewed game for the PS3 in its lifespan thus far by the end of Christmas. In other words, this stupid noob has most likely produced the best game your system has had to offer its entire first 1.5 years of existance.


In fact ,he hasnt ,as the PS3 version was outsourced to some other guys that dont have the same name as Gabe Newell but seems way bette than him to cope with new technologies .

Newell feared multiprocessor ,he feared DirectX 10 ,he fears PS3 .....he just fears to have to do some research and to be separated from his usual and familiar tech and architechture .

 


 Be very careful. Your slagging ff a developer who has more stature than most. I would trust him more than any MS or Sony PR. Even more than 1st and 2nd party developers. Because he has always done multiformat.



HappySqurriel on 14 October 2007
MikeB said:
@ Yojimbo

Cant 360/PS3 do such game in several years?


360 not by a long shot, PS3 IMO very likely. Though I think Halo 3 could have been made to render in 720p on the XBox 360 without genuine sacrifices.

So you're saying Epic, iD, and Valve are all staffed by second year computer science students with no experience?



Saiyar on 14 October 2007

http://www.edn.com/blog/1690000169/post/1110015711.html

I wonder what Gabe will say about this. It's the sort of thing he hates and ATI, Nvidia and IBM are all talking about going down this road. 



selnor on 14 October 2007
Saiyar said:

http://www.edn.com/blog/1690000169/post/1110015711.html

I wonder what Gabe will say about this. It's the sort of thing he hates and ATI, Nvidia and IBM are all talking about going down this road.


 One thing this article makes me think of is how bad for Sony! If this is the way forwar, PS3 will not last 5 years let alone the 10 Sony thought. It will hurt them more than MS as they invested heavily for PS3.



Saiyar on 14 October 2007
selnor said:
Saiyar said:

http://www.edn.com/blog/1690000169/post/1110015711.html

I wonder what Gabe will say about this. It's the sort of thing he hates and ATI, Nvidia and IBM are all talking about going down this road.


One thing this article makes me think of is how bad for Sony! If this is the way forwar, PS3 will not last 5 years let alone the 10 Sony thought. It will hurt them more than MS as they invested heavily for PS3.


Eh? What they are desrcibing is very similar to the Cell. In fact IBM are talking about using the Cell for this purpose.