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Khuutra on 17 August 2009
TheRealMafoo said:
Khuutra said:
My chief concern is lack of coverage, Mafoo, more than cost - cost only really concerns me because it results in a lack of coverage!

Let me ask you this. If it cost $10 a year, and 20% of the population didn’t pay it, would it bother you that they weren’t covered?

For me, what’s important is that it’s something every American can obtain. It’s of no concern to me what you do with your life. It’s your life. I just want to make sure it’s an option to you. If you don’t get insurance, get sick, and then have to file bankruptcy, I want to remove every reasonable excuse a citizen can use as to why they weren’t covered. Right now, the only excuse is cost.

Does everyone have a thousand pennies? I mean, I'm fine for an opt-in coverage.

....Not for minors, though. I think minors coverage needs to be mandatory.



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TheRealMafoo on 17 August 2009
mrstickball said:

Also, I am unsure how this solution, if implemented is a Democratic, or Republican idea. Obama never pushed for this kind of solution, so I fail to see how he could get any credit, unless he plays the small part of not vetoing it (and I'd wonder if GWB would have done the same thing, had this bill been proposed when he was in office). Time will tell if Congress finally does something right.

He should get credit for forcing the issue. I do this kind of thing at work all the time. As a developer, I ask people what they want an application to do. A lot of the time I get blank stares. In those cases, I approach them with “And here is how I plan to do it”. Many of those times I get “but I don’t want it that way, I want it done like this...”. If forces them to give me an answer, which is all I wanted in the first place.



TheRealMafoo on 17 August 2009
Khuutra said:
TheRealMafoo said:
Khuutra said:
My chief concern is lack of coverage, Mafoo, more than cost - cost only really concerns me because it results in a lack of coverage!

Let me ask you this. If it cost $10 a year, and 20% of the population didn’t pay it, would it bother you that they weren’t covered?

For me, what’s important is that it’s something every American can obtain. It’s of no concern to me what you do with your life. It’s your life. I just want to make sure it’s an option to you. If you don’t get insurance, get sick, and then have to file bankruptcy, I want to remove every reasonable excuse a citizen can use as to why they weren’t covered. Right now, the only excuse is cost.

Does everyone have a thousand pennies? I mean, I'm fine for an opt-in coverage.

....Not for minors, though. I think minors coverage needs to be mandatory.

In the US, I don’t think you could show me a single able minded American who can’t make $10 more dollars. Wash windshields, open a back yard car wash, sell newspapers. Hell, just make a cardboard sign and stand on a street corner. You will make 10 bucks in less than an hour.



Khuutra on 17 August 2009
TheRealMafoo said:
Khuutra said:
TheRealMafoo said:

Let me ask you this. If it cost $10 a year, and 20% of the population didn’t pay it, would it bother you that they weren’t covered?

For me, what’s important is that it’s something every American can obtain. It’s of no concern to me what you do with your life. It’s your life. I just want to make sure it’s an option to you. If you don’t get insurance, get sick, and then have to file bankruptcy, I want to remove every reasonable excuse a citizen can use as to why they weren’t covered. Right now, the only excuse is cost.

Does everyone have a thousand pennies? I mean, I'm fine for an opt-in coverage.

....Not for minors, though. I think minors coverage needs to be mandatory.

In the US, I don’t think you could show me a single able minded American who can’t make $10 more dollars. Wash windshields, open a back yard car wash, sell newspapers. Hell, just make a cardboard sign and stand on a street corner. You will make 10 bucks in less than an hour.

I'm trying to clarify that you aren't making a reducto ad absurdum argument. Like I said, I believe in opt-in insurance (mandatory for minors).



sguy78 on 17 August 2009
Dodece said:
@TheRealMafoo

In other words what you are saying is thanks to Obama, and the Democrats being willing to grab this third rail of politics. We might actually get some resolution one way or another. Whether you like it or not they made health care an issue it would not have been had it been a Republican in the white house, or if the congress was more evenly divided.

This is an interesting concept that all parties should look at. This could reduce profiteering in the health sector. Where too much of the money going in is pure profit. This could help to reduce costs, and it could even spur on greater competition. I would say if this was offered through my employer I would have to seriously consider it.

This has nothing to do with Democrats being willing to cross the aisle. It has more to do with Blue Dog Democrats not wanting to lose their seats during the next election cycle.