LMFAO...

Please tell me you didn't get that from the figures released by the Conservative party two days ago because let me tell you those figures are completely inflated and fabricated crap. Seriously, the methodology used was "Make employment under Labour look shit by making figures up", nothing else.

If you didn't get your figure from that I appologise and would like to see where you got themrom. But yeah the Conservative figures were completely bogus and only really made it (represented as fact) to the Lower end tabloids like the Express, Mail and Sun in scarestories.

100% of unemployed people aren't working. And that's the truth.

Your government list working age employment at 73%.

So I wouldn't just say the number was outright made up.

Most likely they took the number from there somewhere.

Source

If you look at what he said, he said that 17% of UK households have no working adults. Now let's assume that the average UK household has 2 (I'm afra'id I can't find the true figure but this has to be close) working adults then that would require the employment to be at 66% or less. What I think hes used is the unemployment figures releasead by the conservative party two days ago which used highly inflated figures and incorrect models.

Conversely however, in research for this I did find a source that said 16% of UK households of working age did not have an employed member, but it went on to say that 42% of these households are either single parent housholds or people who live alone, so there is only one person of working age. So I wont count out the legitimacy of his claim, it just seems a bit inflated to me and that's why I think it was from the conservative estimations recently released.

Meh, things will soon start to pick up in our country again hopefully anyway.

On a side note (or just on topic) I hate how many people blame immigrants for taking away jobs. The only reason people blame immigrants is because they are terrestrial so they experience them first hand and so they are easy to blame. If these same people realised the magnitude that our labour was being outsourced to industrial countries such as China and India then they would soon change their tune towards them.

Outsourcing labour surely must cost more jobs than immigration.

16% or 17%.  Quibbling over 1% seems silly.

As for outsourcing.  Yeah that's the biggest thing Americans complain about.  Not Immigration.

As for things picking up... not sure it will matter... unemployment of that level seems fairly standard based on the average europeon model of employment.

Now Denmark.  They have an ingenious system... but i'm afraid it only works in small countries like Denmark that have mostly all their jobs focusing on the same things.

Well as I said it was converse to what I think, the 16% I found was a close to the 17% given by communist hater, I think that actual figure is lower, at 27% unemployment it sounds like it should be to me. Mind you that source I gave also said 42% of the households wth no working members had only one resident eligible to work so that may explain the statistical imbalance that I can't get my head around.

Yeah in a America I think outsourcing would have more focus than immigration over there because immigration is a little more strict, where as within the EU it is not strict at all. You hear a lot of tabloid talk about immigrants in this country, people bad mouthing the Polish about taking jobs away from workers and so on. However, this distracts people from the massive outsourcing that is happening which costs far more jobs than immigration possibly could.

It's funny you laughed while being wrong.

Also, it's not only about unemplyment, it's about leechyness. There's many lazy parasites out there.

A. I was laughing because it just seems like such an unbelieveably high figure.

B. Whilst I am wrong technically (16% - 17%, whatever), I am not wrong in my unbelief because 42% of those households only have one person eligible for employment and so it is a cherry picked statistic to make the situation sound *a lot* worse than it actually is. 17% of households makes you think *WOW WTF!!!* until you look at the figures behind it, then it becomes more reasonable.

Also, not all unemployed people are on the dole and the vast majority of the people who have recently become unemployed over the past year or two due to the economy are anything but lazy. Fair enough you get the 1-2% that is lazy but the vast majority of recent cases are people who are down on their luck.

In fact there is nothing more than they would like to do than get back into employment, the people who are currently losing their jobs due to the economy are not lazy and leeching of society at all, they hate the fact they're unemployed, trust me. In fact it's made me a little upset that you are trying to bring laziness into a debate about recent rises in unemployment figures.

You really have good faith in people. I estimate it being 20% lazy people in Sweden dodging work, getting all sorts of wellfare to avoid work, blaming unemployment, health problems, social problems, anti-social behaviour, addiction or whatever.

Even if I respect Britons a lot more than Swedish people, it must be well over 10% lazy people in Britain too.

I do have good faith in people, you remind me of my dad in a way because he says the exact same thing.

My dad pays 40% of his wage in taxes, while we both agree that 40% is FAR too high he occasionally takes it out by stereotyping the people it goes too, which I don't think is fair. Why? Because he once made 20 people redundant in one day and he later complained about how people on welfare are lazy. Those 20 people wanted a job, it's just that he had to downsize after a project. So 20 genuine people would have had to go looking for jobs the next day... They were not lazy people.

With all the downsizing going on at the moment I would have real trouble believing that the people who are signing on are doing it because they are lazy. The vast majority of people are genuine cases right now.