it seems awfully similar to the first civil war.

I wonder if the real mafoo actually knows any poor people?

Now I am currently in my last year of high school, it is a public school, it is okay as far as education goes, there are about 1500 students attending, it is overcrowded, it is a public school, it is in a rural area, and it has students from a wide range of economic backgrounds from very very poor to pretty damn rich. Now what I have noticed is that students from better economic circumstances tend to do better and the poorer a family is the worse the student is going to do now there are always many exceptions but my point is not that people who's family have more money try harder often they don't. Most of the students, excluding those that do really well or really bad, put out about the same effort and yet the students from worse socioeconomic backgrounds do worse. Why is that mafoo?

Yes. My entire family, and myself up until the age of 25 or so.

There were months I had $20 to eat. I also have a learning disability (it should be obvious in my lack of proper word usage).

I have yet to ever take government assistance, and I never will.

The only advantage I have, is I have a 160 IQ. However, my sister, mother, and father are smarter and better looking then me. The only reason I make a very good wage, and they don't, is effort.

because effort does not all have to be your own.

I hope that the efforts I put forth, I can transfer to my kids when I have some. I hope I still have that right, and government doesn't take it away to give to someone else's kids.

Yes, the effort it took me to get to where I am, is the same as a rich kid did to get to a better place. I could catch that rich kid if I applied more effort though, I just am not willing to sacrifice my life for the different lifestyle.

The reason he gets more out of his effort, is his father or mother gave him some of there effort to help him along the way.

Every single dollar earned, is just that. Earned. It's someone's effort. Each dollar didn't take the same amount of effort to earn, but it's still someone's time. What gives you the right to take that time from some for the purpose of giving it to someone else?

That's called Slavery, and it used to be against the law in the US. Not anymore.

     However, it is also slavery for a person to put forth more effort than anyone else at their place of work and never get ahead.  For example, the slaves under the planation owners in the 19th century and slave wage earners today.  And it's no more right for them to do all of the work at a place of business and receive very little compensation (wages that don't really pay for their necesseties or enough for them to be able to better their lot in this life.  Company healthcare that doesn't really cover anything at all that could be considered serious) for their efforts than was the backbreaking labor of African American slaves in the nineteenth century.

How can a democratic government that is run by the people have too much power.  If anything, for freedoms sake, ta democratic government can't have enough power. 

When the government doesnt have power over something, it means that someone else does.  I dont know about anyone else, but I trust an elected politician who tries to please me and answers to me every few years more than an elite CEO who has no reason to care about me at all.

No, that's just someone thinking they should be worth more, when they have done nothing to be worth more.

Slavery is when you provide effort against your will. You don't have to work for that company. Hell, in todays world, you don't have to work at all.

You can sustain life solely off the efforts of others, who by law, have to provide you that effort. Who does that make the salve?

     Yeah, and who are you to decide whom is worth more?  All, I see when I look at your posts is conservative here and conservative there and a bit of "I'm king of the world."

     This country is very much still resting upon the principles that everyone is created equal and deserves equal.  And, if you're not down with that, then go live in some fascist nation that really does believe in the ideals of mafoo.

It's not for me to decide anything. It's for the free market to decide. In fact, of all the people on this site, I am the one who most wants people to stop decided what anyone is worth, or what you can control about people.

I am not a conservative, I am a libertarian. We argue about money, because those are the rights you want to take from someone.

I am for legalizing drugs, against aborting laws, pro gay rights, for the separation of church and state.

Conservatives want to take your personal freedoms, and give you your financial freedoms, Liberals want to take your financial freedoms, and give you your personal freedoms.

I say they are all your freedoms, and no one has the right to take any of them. You just never see me fighting for your personal freedoms, because I don’t have to. There are 100 other people here willing to fight those fights.

Typical Leetgeek/Megadude/Steroid/whatever you'll call yourself after your next ban. "If you disagree with me, you are a fascist."