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TheRealMafoo said:
psrock said:

what is successfull, opportunities have to do with health care. What, do you feel like youshould have better health care than me because you make more money? And whose's taking your property to give it away. For a group of people who stand behind religion and God, the right seems more worried about themselves than everybody which makes no sense.

I don't want your health care, your money, your property, you can keep them. I just want a chance to get my own and everyone else, how evil and scary is that?

 

I am not on the right, I am a Libertarian, and an Atheist.

 

And do I feel I should have better healthcare because I make more money? Yes. Money is effort.

 

I know, 100% in my mind, that I could have been a millionaire by now, if I tried hard enough. I didn't want to put the effort in that it took to get there. So, I don't deserve the rewards that come with those efforts. 

 

A millionaire has better healthcare then I do, and I am happy for him. I on the other hand, took life balance over the advantages of working that many more hours towards something.

 

I have something a millionaire doesn't. The free time, lack of responsibly, the memories of all the things I did instead of study, and work for it.

 

Why should I get the luxury of having both the better healthcare and my free time, while he only gets the healthcare?

 

Money is effort, and effort should be rewarded.

 

Good night all.

So my mother who worked day and night for me, did everything to support the family did not show any effort to have a good healthg care. Go to sleep dude, you are getting carried away.

I come from immigarnt family and you dare question people's effort. we all work and we work hard, you and and your millionaires are no better to deserve crap. Buy it then and let me get the help.



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psrock said:
TheRealMafoo said:
psrock said:

what is successfull, opportunities have to do with health care. What, do you feel like youshould have better health care than me because you make more money? And whose's taking your property to give it away. For a group of people who stand behind religion and God, the right seems more worried about themselves than everybody which makes no sense.

I don't want your health care, your money, your property, you can keep them. I just want a chance to get my own and everyone else, how evil and scary is that?

 

I am not on the right, I am a Libertarian, and an Atheist.

 

And do I feel I should have better healthcare because I make more money? Yes. Money is effort.

 

I know, 100% in my mind, that I could have been a millionaire by now, if I tried hard enough. I didn't want to put the effort in that it took to get there. So, I don't deserve the rewards that come with those efforts. 

 

A millionaire has better healthcare then I do, and I am happy for him. I on the other hand, took life balance over the advantages of working that many more hours towards something.

 

I have something a millionaire doesn't. The free time, lack of responsibly, the memories of all the things I did instead of study, and work for it.

 

Why should I get the luxury of having both the better healthcare and my free time, while he only gets the healthcare?

 

Money is effort, and effort should be rewarded.

 

Good night all.

So my mother who worked day and night for me, did everything to support the family did not show any effort to have a good healthg care. Go to sleep dude, you are getting carried away.

I come from immigarnt family and you dare question people's effort. we all work and we work hard, you and and your millionaires are no better to deserve crap. Buy it then and let me get the help.

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What, son, what? New York, New York!!!

Considering that in the video he talks about how much his membership is declining... I don't think Civil War is a big concern.

That said, it's surprising that a Country as advanced and powerful as the United States still allows such organizations to exist. They certainly are a threat to national safety.



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SciFiBoy said:

1. in the UK, the welfare state does not ensure you success, merely a basic standard of life, so you can pursue success.

The problem is that this is given to people with no intent of pursuing success, so they can live their lives without contributing to society in any way, funded by money from the people who work hard to earn a living and achieve success.



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durtysouthhustlah said:
I'd love to see these militias face a B-1 bomber. Yeah ... I'd love to see them take on the Taliban.

They'd get own3d.

Yeah good luck using B-1 bombers against local guerillas.

It works so amazingly well in Iraq and Afghanistan (even with lot more precise attacks from helis and fighter planes).

 

Especially when they look exactly the same as your friends in base and you don't even know if your co-pilot isn't sympathising with them.



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psrock said:

So my mother who worked day and night for me, did everything to support the family did not show any effort to have a good healthg care. Go to sleep dude, you are getting carried away.

I come from immigarnt family and you dare question people's effort. we all work and we work hard, you and and your millionaires are no better to deserve crap. Buy it then and let me get the help.

The poor in this country get healthcare.

If your mother works a full time job, I am sure she can find one with healthcare. Hell, work at McDonalds. 

Also, if your mom is so poor, who cares about credit. We live in a country where you can not go to jail for not paying your bills, and a country where if you walk into any hospital, you can't be denied healthcare.

In the US, your mother, or you, never have to worry about getting sick and not getting treated.

Wait until we have government healthcare, and see how it works for the poor. I am sure it will be worse, not better. This is the problem with these kinds of programs. Yes, the rich and the poor now have the same system. The only problem, is the system is worse for everyone (even the poor).



TheRealMafoo said:
psrock said:

So my mother who worked day and night for me, did everything to support the family did not show any effort to have a good healthg care. Go to sleep dude, you are getting carried away.

I come from immigarnt family and you dare question people's effort. we all work and we work hard, you and and your millionaires are no better to deserve crap. Buy it then and let me get the help.

The poor in this country get healthcare.

If your mother works a full time job, I am sure she can find one with healthcare. Hell, work at McDonalds. 

Also, if your mom is so poor, who cares about credit. We live in a country where you can not go to jail for not paying your bills, and a country where if you walk into any hospital, you can't be denied healthcare.

In the US, your mother, or you, never have to worry about getting sick and not getting treated.

Wait until we have government healthcare, and see how it works for the poor. I am sure it will be worse, not better. This is the problem with these kinds of programs. Yes, the rich and the poor now have the same system. The only problem, is the system is worse for everyone (even the poor).


     Yeah, get a job at Mcdonald's work there like a slave to please the top brass that probably won't move you to manager unless you're the manager or supervisor's relative, make $200.00 a week, pay a significant portion of that for company health issurance, then find out MCCare won't even pay for something as routine as a colonoscopy.



MidnightRider85 said:


     Yeah, get a job at Mcdonald's work there like a slave to please the top brass that probably won't move you to manager unless you're the manager or supervisor's relative, make $200.00 a week, pay a significant portion of that for company health issurance, then find out MCCare won't even pay for something as routine as a colonoscopy.

 

Lol, you’re a funny man. A little melodramatic?

Then go to school and get a better job. It’s not rocket science. I think everyone knows what it takes to make more money. It’s just everyone is not willing to do it.

You don’t want to put the work in to do it, then you don’t get the benefits it provides. Why is that such a hard concept?



I'm sure there are plenty of people like me who would love to overthrow the government and just start over.  Problem is, the government is too powerful to overthrow, and it's become too corrupt to actually change.  The people who need to vote for the proper changes needed are the people who are the problem in the first place.  I'm a republican, but only because I see them as the lesser of two evils.  I personally think both parties should be dissolved.  They're both full of corrupt career politicians.  I've always been proud of this country my entire life.  I've been proud to be an American.  If this continued push towards socialism succeeds though, i'll be completely ashamed of my country for the first time.  Why did we fight socialism and communism for so damn long in the first place if we're gonna let them win in the end anyways.

Also, the real mafoo is right.  Anyone who wants to make their life better can.  Not everyone has the drive to do it, or they've already screwed their lives up so much it's too late.  I don't understand why you socialists think those people deserve the same benefits as people who actually did something with their lives.  People who maybe showed a little restraint, who didn't get pregnant and have 5 children by the time they're 21.  People who actually showed enough motivation to go to school and get a degree. Heck, my job doesn't even require a degree and I make more than enough money to support my wife and I.  We both have benefits because I work full time.  We can afford this because we're not druggies.  We're not alcoholics.  We run our lives as they should be, instead of however we feel like it.  Why do you socialists think everyone deserves the same benefits as me.  What incentive do I have to continue to be responisible?  Socialism doesn't work because it makes everyone so damn lazy that the society eventually can't support itself.

To quote margaret thatcher, "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples money to spend.".



TheRealMafoo said:
MidnightRider85 said:


     Yeah, get a job at Mcdonald's work there like a slave to please the top brass that probably won't move you to manager unless you're the manager or supervisor's relative, make $200.00 a week, pay a significant portion of that for company health issurance, then find out MCCare won't even pay for something as routine as a colonoscopy.

 

Lol, you’re a funny man. A little melodramatic?

Then go to school and get a better job. It’s not rocket science. I think everyone knows what it takes to make more money. It’s just everyone is not willing to do it.

You don’t want to put the work in to do it, then you don’t get the benefits it provides. Why is that such a hard concept?

Has it struck you that not everybody has the opportunity to go to school?

Education, at least, should remain free, and the tools to be successful should be made available to everyone who is willing to work for that success. Some people will have to work harder than others. That's just the way the world works. Levelling the playing field is impossible.



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