@pristine

Sony and MS' controls seem more optional than standard. Although each might come with the system.

Wow, the HD boys really are getting desperate, my motion control is better than yours it will beat the Wii! BELIEVE!!! Change motion control for graphic and it's the same thing that happened at the beginning of this gen. Sorry to inform all the believer that software move hardware not motion control, not graphic, not online, software.

Until the first party developer of either Microsoft or Sony start to make new kind of game, either with their current control scheme or with their new "me too" one they are going to stay a really distant second, third to Nintendo consoles. And by new kind I mean game that make current gamer say "It will never work!. It's not a game!" Something that is actually different, not some fanboy wet dream about immersion, graphic, reality immitation and other common gaming trope.

It's easy to talk crap about what will happen in the futur and imagine make believe scenario where your console of choice make an heroic comeback. Much easier than accept the fact that your console is getting its ass raped by the competition and that this will keep going for the foreseeable futur.

Malachi said: Wow, the HD boys really are getting desperate, my motion control is better than yours it will beat the Wii! BELIEVE!!! Change motion control for graphic and it's the same thing that happened at the beginning of this gen. Sorry to inform all the believer that software move hardware not motion control, not graphic, not online, software. Until the first party developer of either Microsoft or Sony start to make new kind of game, either with their current control scheme or with their new "me too" one they are going to stay a really distant second, third to Nintendo consoles. And by new kind I mean game that make current gamer say "It will never work!. It's not a game!" Something that is actually different, not some fanboy wet dream about immersion, graphic, reality immitation and other common gaming trope. It's easy to talk crap about what will happen in the futur and imagine make believe scenario where your console of choice make an heroic comeback. Much easier than accept the fact that your console is getting its ass raped by the competition and that this will keep going for the foreseeable futur.

Not sure who the desperate one is...with posts like this.

I am sure that both sony and MS will make impressive original software using their motion tech. However if they decide to slap some party games and some work out software and sell it to the masses, Wii will have serious competition on the market. Saleswise, that is all wii does these days...it certanly isn't selling because of non casual software. Look at Punch out, conduit, madworld sales for proof.

So the OP is valid in asking how will nintendo stand out from the crowd once its 1 trick is matched by the competition. Like you said, Wii doesn't do HD visuals, multimedia stuff, online...and once its motion controls are no longer exclusive but have been improved upon by its competition, what will they do?

"...and sony has 1:1 down to a science"

and

.."they were just talkin' some trash as they usually do"

These were my two favourite lines. LOL.

I think you've misunderstood Nintendo. They meant that once everyone else copies motion, Nintendo will start something else. They won't abandon the wii-mote just as they haven't abandoned old controls. They'll just come up with something new that other companies just don't have the ability to come up with ie the Vitality sensor.

See: Red ocean/blue ocean

@disolitute. Sorry dude, Sega and Sony never took Nintendo's innovation torch. New business model maybe, innovation, hell no.

disolitude said: People that have been around videogames for a while know that innovation doesn't come form the same company. First ninteno innovated, then Sega took the torch, then sony did it... I wouldn't look for the "next big thing" from nintendo again.

Really? I've been gaming since the 2600. I'll give you innovation with Sega (going above 2 action buttons, trying to extend the life of a system, color portable gaming, use of disk media), but what has Sony done for innovation? Sega and NEC used disks well before they did, the dualshock was copying ideas from Nintendo (thumbstick and rumble pack), and the games that helped the systems take off were 3rd party games, not Sony's own doing.

VR glasses.

disolitude said: People that have been around videogames for a while know that innovation doesn't come form the same company. First ninteno innovated, then Sega took the torch, then sony did it... I wouldn't look for the "next big thing" from nintendo again.

When has sony come out with ANYTHING innovative? Putting games on a disc (like sega)? Last Time I checked they copied... A LOT...

"Saleswise, that is all wii does these days...it certanly isn't selling because of non casual software. Look at Punch out, conduit, madworld sales for proof."

You could look at Galaxy, Brawl, Kart and Twighlight Princess instead. That's about 40M sales of core games that Sony could only dream of.

Virtual reality like in Ghost in the Shell or Matrix.

At that point it'll literally become a "murder simulator".

disolitude said: Malachi said: Wow, the HD boys really are getting desperate, my motion control is better than yours it will beat the Wii! BELIEVE!!! Change motion control for graphic and it's the same thing that happened at the beginning of this gen. Sorry to inform all the believer that software move hardware not motion control, not graphic, not online, software. Until the first party developer of either Microsoft or Sony start to make new kind of game, either with their current control scheme or with their new "me too" one they are going to stay a really distant second, third to Nintendo consoles. And by new kind I mean game that make current gamer say "It will never work!. It's not a game!" Something that is actually different, not some fanboy wet dream about immersion, graphic, reality immitation and other common gaming trope. It's easy to talk crap about what will happen in the futur and imagine make believe scenario where your console of choice make an heroic comeback. Much easier than accept the fact that your console is getting its ass raped by the competition and that this will keep going for the foreseeable futur. Not sure who the desperate one is...with posts like this. I am sure that both sony and MS will make impressive original software using their motion tech. However if they decide to slap some party games and some work out software and sell it to the masses, Wii will have serious competition on the market. Saleswise, that is all wii does these days...it certanly isn't selling because of non casual software. Look at Punch out, conduit, madworld sales for proof. So the OP is valid in asking how will nintendo stand out from the crowd once its 1 trick is matched by the competition. Like you said, Wii doesn't do HD visuals, multimedia stuff, online...and once its motion controls are no longer exclusive but have been improved upon by its competition, what will they do?

As I say, you are a believer and as I say it's easy to talk crap about what you think will happen, what will actually happen is another matter entirely.