http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=Wii®1=------&cons2=PS3®2=All&cons3=X360®3=All&weeks=200&weekly=1
This is much more telling actually as it shows how the consoles are trending now quite explicitly.
Tease.
Xoj said:
because microsoft doens't have the first party to support the console, it's know just to drop thinks off. like windows live games, events and the original xbox. the moment the next xbox is announced and its backward compatible, they will drop support. |
If there wasn't enough first party support, how would have MS survived anyway? Not only that they survived, they were outperforming the PS3.
They have some great exclusives (1st, 2nd or 3rd party - customers do NOT care) for 2009 and 2010 already. Rare and Lionhead have been completly silent for quite some time now, they are definatly working on something. And MS created a team for the Halo franchise (343 industries) that has been busy for a while. Plus Tokio Vikings (new team around Tomonobu Itagaki - DoA / Ninja Gaiden) and Mistwalker... so there won't be a shortage of games in the next years.
I can't believe people are bringing this up again. 5 months ago, there were 3 threads a day about the lack of games for MS this Xmas. Now they showed that there is a very good line up for 2009 (Halo ODST / Forza 3 / Left 4 Dead 2 / Modern Warfare 2) and even 2010 (Crackdown2 / Alan Wake / Splinter Cell / FF XIII /etc) and now I have to hear, MS will stop support the Xbox360, because of not enough first party support. BS.
And even IF this would be true (As we all know it is not!) What would starting a new generation do? Would the 1st party get bigger? No. So if MS did what you think, it wouldn't change the problem you made up.
Damn, now I wasted so much text, just to show you, that you got no point at all.
Imagine not having GamePass on your console...
| Squilliam said: http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=Wii®1=------&cons2=PS3®2=All&cons3=X360®3=All&weeks=200&weekly=1 This is much more telling actually as it shows how the consoles are trending now quite explicitly. |
Respect to that graph too. It shows quite precisely that this is a crucial period for the PS3 in the battle. Again, if you look at the same point in the 360 cycle the pricecut had a huge effect on the 360's fortunes, and we are virtually down to the very same week. It will be fascinating to watch over the next couple of months.
Unlike many / most PS3 fans I am more than happy for PS3 to take the bronze. As long as they put in a solid performance. I'd use a cricket analogy here too, but I'm afraid it would be totally lost on most people on this site. But not lost on Squill right? These graphs are so like the worms we see for the ODIs while the run chase is on. Maybe we should use the Duckworth-Lewis system for figuring out what PS3's winning target is at whatever time one thinks the "match" will end. Trouble is the exact D-L formula is a well guarded secret, 90% of the formula can be found on the web, but those crucial missing elements are impossible to find.
Man, there is always a cricketing analogy. It's better than the analogy I used in my first post. Too bad hardly anyone gets it.
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| Infamous said: It's actually funny to read the hypocrisy from PS3 "fans" that have posted in this thread, attacking the OP and such. There's about a couple dozen "PS3 slim = comeback for Sony confirmed death of 360" topics, and Kowenicki simply posts a chart that gives factual calculations to knock reality back in fanboys heads. Nothing wrong with that; it's needed. People who think "Slim" is going to make Sony "win" 2nd place and even get remotely close to 1st are simply delusional. Firstly, for the end of this year alone it's already speculated that 60gb will be replaced with the 120GB skus. That alone will counter a slim release without much effort needed (and trust me, as the smart ones reading this already know, if MS truly wanted to propel a comeback just to stop Sony in any way, shape and form they will pull the strings for it as they've done in the past). Secondly, if the rumored Natal 360+ sku releases next year (which is heavily rumored and seems to have as much credibility as a PS3 slim), that's going to propel 360 sells to extreme heights. Casual sells alone, but if the rumored TB harddrive is even close to true (I don't believe that, but I'm sure they'll be an extreme storage increase because MS is pushing for streaming and downloading, as well as 120's being the new Pros and harddrives becoming cheaper). Also, ROFL @ the people who think Natal won't be successful. The casual media and publicity this thing has gotten so far is insane, and E3 just passed. Maybe the hardcore like you and me might not care too much (yet, until something catches our hardcore eyes), but the Wii alone shows that casuals are nothing to be reckoned with. Also, it saddens me the amount of suicides and crow eating if Sony does NOT win this holiday over MS; there is NO better time then this and if the fanboys are wrong, what then? Slim + pricecut + FF13 Japan + possible GT5? If Sony barely passes MS with this strategy, that's enough for crow-eating. This is the biggest ace Sony can have, and if it even remotely doesn't show the predictions people are screaming, it won't be good. All we've heard for years and years was "wait until.." and "next year = year of the PS3 confirmed.." and such remarks.. it's just very tiring. TL;DR: The veterans of this site and gaming in general know that, even if Sony gains a bit of momentum, if MS wants to counter they can, easily. Natal will have more market penetration then you think, especially with the rumored 360+ sku next year. The amount of sales Sony needs to outsell 360 alone is astronomical and people making silly predictions better get that bib and fork ready for some bbqCrow eatin'. Also, it's not the end of the world if there's one pro-MS topic in the sea of pro-Sony topics flooding this site. Take a breath. |
So, sony is doomed and will stay in 3rd place? Couldn't you just say that. and i like crow :D
DirtyP2002 said:
They have some great exclusives (1st, 2nd or 3rd party - customers do NOT care) for 2009 and 2010 already. Rare and Lionhead have been completly silent for quite some time now, they are definatly working on something. And MS created a team for the Halo franchise (343 industries) that has been busy for a while. Plus Tokio Vikings (new team around Tomonobu Itagaki - DoA / Ninja Gaiden) and Mistwalker... so there won't be a shortage of games in the next years. I can't believe people are bringing this up again. 5 months ago, there were 3 threads a day about the lack of games for MS this Xmas. Now they showed that there is a very good line up for 2009 (Halo ODST / Forza 3 / Left 4 Dead 2 / Modern Warfare 2) and even 2010 (Crackdown2 / Alan Wake / Splinter Cell / FF XIII /etc) and now I have to hear, MS will stop support the Xbox360, because of not enough first party support. BS. And even IF this would be true (As we all know it is not!) What would starting a new generation do? Would the 1st party get bigger? No. So if MS did what you think, it wouldn't change the problem you made up. Damn, now I wasted so much text, just to show you, that you got no point at all. |
modern warfare 2 is not first party, neither is FF13. they are also multiplatform.
left 4 dead its third party, and available on PC.
and crackdown 2 and alan wake are not going to be huge sellers , halo ODST it a expansion to halo 3.
and thats this year, when new gen comes, microsoft will move it third party timed exclusives to their new console.
sony had this year, killzone 2, infamous, uncharted 2,R&C crack in time ,mag, GT5 by the end of year,heavy rain, then in march God of war 3, and later that year
team ico "last guardian".
all first/second party.
It does not need to outsell the 360 that would be impossible, but the fact that it is keeping pace with the 360 even at its much higher cost and it being 1 year late to the market tells a greater story. The 360 will be in trouble if the PS3 passes 30 mil by Q1 next year . I expect momentum for the PS3 to be way greater than the 360 this holiday . The time is right for a price cut and the line up is still unmatched, and yes the PS3's lineup should be enough to slow down the 360.
I doubt Halo will push sales, not this far into the 360 life, besides it wont stand a chance with MW2, however, I do see people picking up PS3's for GT5, Uncharted 2 , and very much so GOW3.
binary solo said:
Unlike many / most PS3 fans I am more than happy for PS3 to take the bronze. As long as they put in a solid performance. I'd use a cricket analogy here too, but I'm afraid it would be totally lost on most people on this site. But not lost on Squill right? These graphs are so like the worms we see for the ODIs while the run chase is on. Maybe we should use the Duckworth-Lewis system for figuring out what PS3's winning target is at whatever time one thinks the "match" will end. Trouble is the exact D-L formula is a well guarded secret, 90% of the formula can be found on the web, but those crucial missing elements are impossible to find. Man, there is always a cricketing analogy. It's better than the analogy I used in my first post. Too bad hardly anyone gets it. |
Hehe, well im going to be a bastard and say that Microsoft has Shane Bond at the peak of his form! 
Its a very exciting little run chase to watch for us we lil spectators.
In any case, the problem for the PS3 is that it has fallen behind the Xbox 360 run rate at an equivelent point in time so the required run rate for victory within a set timeframe is increasing rapidly. Every month the PS3 is under that line increases the rate at which they have to sell because they are running out of time.
Tease.
^ Just as long as you don't use Chukka Murralitheran.
But do they need 12 runs per over yet with only 2 wickets in hand?
If you're gonna claim Shane Bond then I'm claiming Gilchrist (while at the top of his game) is either still at the crease or is yet to come in . In fact the phantom Slim IS Adam Gilchrist (much as it pains me to use an Aussie as a coounter to Shane Bond).
Though I would say you are using the Manhatten graph in the wrong way by saying they have fallen behind the run rate required. What the Manhatten shows is that PS3s last 5 overs have been low scoring overs (but previous overs have been high scoring overs) and that has brought the RR down a bit, but who knows whether it's below the RRR. I don't think we know for sure, because we know the next power play is just about upon us so we know the RR is gonna go up, but only if the right batsmen are at the crease to take advantage of it (i.e. Slim Pricecut, and Grant Urismo).
You Statesiders and Continental Europeans following this OK?
“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell
"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."
Jimi Hendrix
| leo-j said: Why would I be jelouse, I am just saying he makes the same thread every other day.. |
now I see why u have -54K vg$
Adobo said:
now I see why u have -54K vg$ |
What's being crap at the prediction league got to do with this subject?
“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell
"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."
Jimi Hendrix
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