socialism isnt a bad thing you know...
and yes every person should have the right to free healthcare

Oh god I love the Right wing attack party.

No he is not a socialist. He's a realist.

One thing I've never understood is how the Republican party can be so damned Christian, yet so immoral at the same time.

Jesus: Love thy neighbor
Republicans: Fuck them, I don't care if they lost their job due to Bush's incentives for their company to outsource to India. Oh and btw kill the gays.

Seriously, what's so wrong with trying to design a health care system that tries to still focus on quality and allow the millions of children access to it? Its not their fault their parents didn't do all they could in life.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with society as a whole pitching in a little individually to help out those who need it. Will there be those who take advantage of it? Of course. Does that take away from the greater majority who actually need it? No. Only the selfish and ignorant would believe that.

1913.  What a year, eh?  That's when the government interference began causing major bubbles and crashes. 

Sure we've always had supply side recessions before then but nothing major.   It wasn't until they decided central economic planning was a necessity that we began having major booms and busts.

And no it doesn't soften the blow of a crash so much as delays the recovery greatly and compounds the problem for the next impending bust.

Superchunk, we already have nationalized health care for kids, the elderly and the poor.  Why do we need a far larger, more bloated, more expensive doomed to fail system to coincide with it?

Communist!  Giving people access to free health care just takes away the incentive to work.  Nothing motivates people to improve their station in life like a chronic cough, weird growth, or constant back pain.

We have? So the millions of kids without health care I see and read about are myth? Also, what time machine do you have that lets you know the finalized version will fail?

Other nations have far larger systems that seem to function just as well as our current one, except everyone is covered.

Again, its easier to be selfish and just say fuck them, I don't want to potentially pay anything more. Let them die.

Did I say the uninsured was a myth? Stop putting words in peoples mouths. I said we already have health care programs for kids, the poor and elderly.

I don't have a time machine but I know history and history teaches us rather well so long as well pay attention to it. Show me a major US social services program that isn't a failure or debt compiler.

After everything else prior has failed, why shouldn't I be skeptical of the most expensive social services program in history?

Kids without Healthcare are only those whose parents who refuse to buy them healthcare.

It's why Obama's original healthcare plan... the one he campaigned on was... "I'm going to pass a law that forces parents to buy their children healthcare."

Any child who wouldn't have access to it would be eligiable for Medicaid or CHIP.

It's not really a myth so much as a discussion as to rather parents should be forced to make descisons regarding their children.

Should they be forced to buy insurance or should they play on the odds their children won't be sick so they'll have more money for their children later in life.

lol americas worst fear:communism.

i almost took you seriously there...

@kas and viper

No. Parents are not choosing to not buy healthcare. Those who do not have it A) cannot afford the very expensive price of getting healthcare not through an employer and B) work at jobs that put them just above the levels of getting the current government paid options, yet the job itself doesn't offer healthcare.

Those are the specific, hardworking people that we should help.

You guys make it sound like parents are choosing luxury cars over healthcare. lol.

Every nation in the world that isn't deathly poor, has social programs to help out those in need regardless of their government style. It is simply immoral to not try to help those you can and based on they amount of money this nation creates, we can.

No we can't. Not without reducing current spending greatly, increasing taxes greatly, borrowing money from the Chines (who are buying far less bonds this year than in decades) or borrowing majorly from the Fed which inflates our money supply.

Take a pick. I prefer the first one but you good and well that will never happen.



Why not just open it up to the free market and solve all the problems?