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All I see is Wii fanboys crying because their console didn't get a glowing report...yet again. You guys really need to grow up and stop your whining. The article was fairly well written, and was very objective. Suffice to say, what goes up, must come down. I really don't see what the big deal is...so the Wii will have a bad year. I think Nintendo has more than made up for it in past years.



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ironman said:
All I see is Wii fanboys crying because their console didn't get a glowing report...yet again. You guys really need to grow up and stop your whining. The article was fairly well written, and was very objective. Suffice to say, what goes up, must come down. I really don't see what the big deal is...so the Wii will have a bad year. I think Nintendo has more than made up for it in past years.

@Bolded- I Agree that is true. but that goes for all consoles.... except the DS and maybe the PSP...



Manos said:
All I see is a journalist with some facts which you nintendo fans do not like. That does not make him incompetent. Your comments however makes you sound like total douchebags.
ironman said:
All I see is Wii fanboys crying because their console didn't get a glowing report...yet again. You guys really need to grow up and stop your whining. The article was fairly well written, and was very objective. Suffice to say, what goes up, must come down. I really don't see what the big deal is...so the Wii will have a bad year. I think Nintendo has more than made up for it in past years.

 

"All I see" are people like you two who are failing to notice the severe descrepencies within the article and are merely agreeing with it on the grounds that it is negative towards Wii.


No words about the authors subjective tone?  No words on the poor syntax?  No words about the false information?   No words about the incorrect currency exchange?   Just slamming Wii fans for calling out a bad article, eh?



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JUG said:
@Squilliam. Yes, granted there are some good points. This holiday season will be an important test for Nintendo. The focus of my criticism was on the way the journalist implied that Nintendo has no strong titles in its immediate line-up, and I think that point still stands. My thread title is probably a little bit guilty of a similar shameless attention-seeking as the author's headline...

@madkiller I don't think you'll make yourself many friends by calling forum posters either chilldish or uneducated. Most of the people I've met on this site fall into neither category.

We don't know but the author of the article might be lot closer to the typical Wii audience then any of the people obssesed with gaming to the point of joining games sales website and forum. So just becouse we can tell half the incoming lineup for all platforms in the incoming months it doesn't mean joe the average knows about them.

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JUG said:
@Squilliam. Yes, granted there are some good points. This holiday season will be an important test for Nintendo. The focus of my criticism was on the way the journalist implied that Nintendo has no strong titles in its immediate line-up, and I think that point still stands. My thread title is probably a little bit guilty of a similar shameless attention-seeking as the author's headline...

@madkiller I don't think you'll make yourself many friends by calling forum posters either chilldish or uneducated. Most of the people I've met on this site fall into neither category.

We don't know but the author of the article might be lot closer to the typical Wii audience then any of the people obssesed with gaming to the point of joining games sales website and forum. So just becouse we can tell half the incoming lineup for all platforms in the incoming months it doesn't mean joe the average knows about them.

If only there was some sort of article where news of this sort could be passed onto Joe Average. Perhaps people who are good at keeping journals could research it and then publish their journal entries on a wide scale. If that takes off maybe we can try to digitize these logs up onto the web and pass it onto millions of people all at once! No, that would never work. Better to just accept that this journalist can't be expected to inform his readers of anything. Wait...



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Viper1 said:
Manos said:
All I see is a journalist with some facts which you nintendo fans do not like. That does not make him incompetent. Your comments however makes you sound like total douchebags.
ironman said:
All I see is Wii fanboys crying because their console didn't get a glowing report...yet again. You guys really need to grow up and stop your whining. The article was fairly well written, and was very objective. Suffice to say, what goes up, must come down. I really don't see what the big deal is...so the Wii will have a bad year. I think Nintendo has more than made up for it in past years.

 

"All I see" are people like you two who are failing to notice the severe descrepencies within the article and are merely agreeing with it on the grounds that it is negative towards Wii.


No words about the authors subjective tone?  No words on the poor syntax?  No words about the false information?   No words about the incorrect currency exchange?   Just slamming Wii fans for calling out a bad article, eh?

Then you clearly are blind. Care to point out the discrepancies? I saw none that were worth getting your panties in a bunch. Also, your motives are clear, boost the Wii at all costs...well buddy, this one will cost you dearly, you see, I don't give a crap about an article supposable "bashing" the Wii, what I care about is how every single person I have come across on this forum that was a big Wii fan, was also a crybaby...that gets old my friend. The article did not bash the Wii in ANY way. It just gave a perspective on the outcome of it...and a fair one at that.

The auther's tone was NOT subjective, I saw no syntax errors that I have not seen in any other article I have read. Please point out the false information...and explain why the mistakes (which I am very sure were not life changing) are so horrible. And lastly, the currency exchange rate changes from day to day, and is easy to mess up if you don't know what you are doing. I fail to see how any of this is bashing of the Wii. It seems to me that the author was writing to a relevant audience, everyday people. Not the hard core gamer wannabees that troll forums. Seriously, get over yourself, at the end of the day, the only thing that really matters is that you have your favorite console, with your favorite games, that you can play through your tear blurred eyes.



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I live in a world where any article written with next to zero research on the subject matter is, unarguably, a crap article. This guy is either incompetent, or has a problem with the Wii and is intentional painting a worse picture of their current standing. Take your pick.



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ironman said:

Then you clearly are blind. Care to point out the discrepancies? I saw none that were worth getting your panties in a bunch. Also, your motives are clear, boost the Wii at all costs...well buddy, this one will cost you dearly, you see, I don't give a crap about an article supposable "bashing" the Wii, what I care about is how every single person I have come across on this forum that was a big Wii fan, was also a crybaby...that gets old my friend. The article did not bash the Wii in ANY way. It just gave a perspective on the outcome of it...and a fair one at that.

The auther's tone was NOT subjective, I saw no syntax errors that I have not seen in any other article I have read. Please point out the false information...and explain why the mistakes (which I am very sure were not life changing) are so horrible. And lastly, the currency exchange rate changes from day to day, and is easy to mess up if you don't know what you are doing. I fail to see how any of this is bashing of the Wii. It seems to me that the author was writing to a relevant audience, everyday people. Not the hard core gamer wannabees that troll forums. Seriously, get over yourself, at the end of the day, the only thing that really matters is that you have your favorite console, with your favorite games, that you can play through your tear blurred eyes.

In what sense was this article fair? It gives no perspective on the over all market what-so-ever, and focuses on taking side swipes at a couple of the competitors. The Wii is in sales dive, and needs something quick but is still extremely profitable and outselling all competing machines combined. Did you get that message from the article? It should be in there somewhere. I'll give you time to scan for it while I make my next point.

He also completely ignores the upcoming games for the Wii. You have 2 sequels to games that sold over 15 million copies due out this fall. According to the article the next big game from Nintendo is SMG2 which is due out next year. Super Mario Galaxy 2 was also delayed specifically to allow one of those 2 aforementioned sequels a little breathing room for maximum sales potential of both titles. This means NMSBWii will be out before it, and this is a widely known fact.

The article doesn't bash the Wii. You have a point there. The author just intentionaly create the illusion that Nintendo is suffering far worse than it is. His motivation for that can be questioned till the end of time but ultimately it comes down to one of two possibilities. He is incompetent, or he has something against Nintendo and the Wii.



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Sorry everyone, I naively thought this thread would die as quickly as my 'annoying WSR reviews' thread last week. In that thread I took issue with a reviewer who complained that you had to use the d-pad to direct your ball in table tennis (which you don't). I was surprised by the comment since it suggested he hadn't played the game.

Here I think I've been a bit too gung-ho. It's not really Wii bashing at all. It was just the oversights about the games line-up and the dismissive tone meted out to WSR that bothered me. Other people have made these points better than me.

But innacuracy and bias are the nature of journalism, and in the grand scheme of things I realize this article really isn't that bad. If I could change the thread title, I would.



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