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Stan85 on 17 August 2009

I like people that burries their anger and sadness in Killzone 2 just because "Rage runs faster on Xbox 360".

Please be on-topic and not OFF...way off!

It`s about the game anyway...if it`s good than it will be a succes in sales on ps3 also.



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Zizzla_Rachet on 17 August 2009
CGI-Quality said:
Zizzla_Rachet said:
CGI-Quality said:
RAZurrection said:
Ultibankai said:

@CGI-Quality: Do you see what I mean? This guy has an agenda, and at the top of the list of things to do, it's to pass the PS3 off as a piece of third world crap.

You need to cut the damage control son.

Ultibankai said:

@CGI-Quality: Do you see what I mean? This guy has an agenda, and at the top of the list of things to do, it's to pass the PS3 off as a piece of third world crap. Can you believe he really singled out R2, out of all 1st party/2nd party games, he chose Resistance 2 to prove a point.

You're the one who brought up second party games as being the way to do things. Seriously, it's just the PS3s limitations coming into play, as we knew they would in the long term. TBH it's insulting to Jon & Co. that you suggest he's developing the wrong way just because the PS3 version can't keep up. Your damage control is sickening.

Ultibankai said:

Oh and RAZ, it seems you misread. PS3 has frame rate problems, 360 has texture resolution problems. Do not try to spin his words to favor 360, when it plainly states in the (Full) interview what console has what problems. PS3 only has one problem, going by the interview, and is slower to catch up. 360 has texture resolution problems and is closest to the PC version at the moment.

I have a copy of the issue, unabridged here in front of me, they talk about the texture issues and also mention that these are further more compounded on PS3 because the blu-ray throughput is slower.

Ultibankai said:

Oh and to respond to your "veedeeeooohs" comment, condescending much? I've seen the videos, so if you had read my post just before yours, you would have noticed this.

So why did you ask why i was comparing screenshots when there's a cavalcade of moving media available?

Ultibankai said:

A multiplatform Killzone 2, that is what Rage is.

It's very interesting that a multi-platform game should look better then Killzone 2 and run at double the framerate, it's also interesting that the 360 version seems to be much better.

Ultibankai said:

I mean seriously, is it too much to ask to WAIT until the game releases to pass judgment on it.

Yet you immediately start preaching on the merits of Sonys first party "fixing" the games development. Disgusting. Trying to push that agenda is chilling to the core.

Ultibankai said:

When released, if the game really is all that beautiful, then we can decide which console runs it more efficiently. Fair enough RAZ? This is a mid-development build, lets not take it as the definitive versions of the game, OK?

You're in the bargaining stage of denile here. You're playing damage control because techs next big thing isn't as big on PS3.

CGI-Quality said:

I've obvserved that behavior from him since my arrival on the Chartz. It's quite sad when you think about it.

I've noted even worse behaviour around you, especially with regards to Heavy Rains technical downgrades.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bud, give it a rest. Your agenda is very well documented. No need to pretend that you are some fair poster, all you've done since joining this site is downplay anything Sony or the PS3. Just stop while you're behind.

Besides, you're off topic anyway.

@ Raz..Once upon a time there was a thread and Heavy Rain was involved...I went on and on pointing out technical flaws in what we have seen from the in game vids...I even posted those vids along with my findings...CGI ended it by telling me that the things I said about Heavy Rain were my opinion not facts....

@Ultibankai....

When are people going to accept the fact, that No matter how good Killzone 2 looks..it will never reach 2mill unbundled...and even with Bundles...I don't see reaching 3 mill...Unless Sony bundles it with Every form of PS3 for the next 2 1/2 years....

While the game has sold decently...It's just another generic FPS game from Sony...Much Like Ressistance...No one cares about killZone2 now...And it's only been out a few months...When CoD 6 hits...It will vanish completly...Rainbow Six Vegas is no where near KillZone 2 in graphics...And It's made more of an Impact this gen...

Graphics Will not save KillZone 2....

It's posts like these that ALWAYS make me shake my head...

A. Your apparent "flaws" you claim to have found in HEAVY RAIN are priceless, I usually get a chuckle from them. Besides, it's a PS3 exclusive, I expect you to trash it.

B. Killzone 2 was already bundled in Europe.

C. Killzone 2 doesn't need saving, somehow the misinformed think otherwise though. Plenty of people still play/care about Killzone 2. Too bad your too one-sided to see that.

A.Right....You expect me to thrash it...But ignore that fact that I was just pointing out stuff from the videos out there...

B.Which is why it's sales look decent....I would love to see some unbundled Data in Jan 2010.

C.Yeah...I'm sure people play it a lot...The other night I was playing Halo 3 with NFA...And the Server told me 500,000+ people were available( for that type of match) or looking for a room...It was 4 am were I was...I'm sure KillZone 2's userbase is on that level too...

 



 



Squilliam on 17 August 2009

Hi, Halo 3 looks better than Rage and Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 and Crysis 2 ok?

(This needs to be closed)



Tease.

monlosez on 17 August 2009

Zizzla_Rachet, you have new gamertag? Where is the old one?



Zizzla_Rachet on 18 August 2009
Squilliam said:
Hi, Halo 3 looks better than Rage and Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 and Crysis 2 ok?

(This needs to be closed)

Errm...Squill and Seece cast Fusion?



 



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Zizzla_Rachet on 18 August 2009
monlosez said:
Zizzla_Rachet, you have new gamertag? Where is the old one?

What old one...I stoped sharing a 360...So..I guess this is my new one...



 



Zizzla_Rachet on 18 August 2009
CGI-Quality said:
Squilliam said:
Hi, Halo 3 looks better than Rage and Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 and Crysis 2 ok?

(This needs to be closed)

Couldn't agree more.

You did not notice that it's says Squilliam..But it's Seece's Avatar and Sig with Seece's gamer tag...



 



Zizzla_Rachet on 18 August 2009
CGI-Quality said:
Zizzla_Rachet said:
CGI-Quality said:
Squilliam said:
Hi, Halo 3 looks better than Rage and Killzone 2 and Uncharted 2 and Crysis 2 ok?

(This needs to be closed)

Couldn't agree more.

You did not notice that it's says Squilliam..But it's Seece's Avatar and Sig with Seece's gamer tag...

Yup, and I still feel that way. This thread has gone no place, and each side will just continue to argue in favor of their preference, while being off topic.

I myself am guilty of it in here and I will cease to post further.

Errmmm..I was talking about how wierd it is to see that....The Website is having problems...



 



starcraft on 18 August 2009
CGI-Quality said:
RAZurrection said:
Not surprised, 360 was always more future proof than the PS3 for true next-gen engines.

Oh, how misinformed we are today...

OT: Well, as long as it plays good on both, I don't see the issue.

I assume your argument here is that neither console is particularly future proof right?

Arguing that either one is future proof is folly given what PC's are putting out these days.  And given the very comparable output from both consoles graphically speaking, I think the whole debate is a bit redundant.



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starcraft on 18 August 2009
Ultibankai said:
He said the CPU is about the same....., I stopped reading at that point (not really). The cell is way more powerful than what can be found in the 360. The only reason I can fathom for the PS3 to be lagging behind like that, is because the developer isn't familiar with the architecture (Like the developer Valve, which prefers and are more acclimated to PC development). They can't fully wrap their heads around the complexity of the Cell architecture. Can't blame them though this will be their first NEXT-GEN game.

Ahh ok.

I was about to take one of the greatest PC developers ever, who is currently developing a multi-platform game and has no reason to lie, at his word over the technical specifications of these two consoles.

I'm glad you stepped in to shine truth on the situation and remove any confusion.



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