dallas said: nightsurge said: Of those 11 cents, how much reaches Sony? They are only a 1/6th or 1/8th owner of the Blu-Ray tech. So 1-2 cents isn't that much Also, Sony has made computer parts used in Windows PC's for ages so I just don't get where you are going with this. They make DVD drives, and before that they made CD drives. They also make some of the nicer desktop and laptop models for MS's Windows platform..... Sony and MS have always been benefiting from eachother.... Sure, they probably get an 1/8 or less of the optical drive share....but they get 100%of the royalties from the sales of the discs that's why I keep bringing up the point of the disc sales.  Now, 11 cents per disc isn't going to hobble MS but it will be noticed, and it will be enough to help Sony.

Why does Sony get all the royalties when they share ownership of Blu-Ray with like 7 other companies?  That's what I'm trying to say.  It's more like 1-2 cents of the royalties reach them.

And if it really is helping Sony so much, you'd think they would be in less financial trouble.

Oh and Wal-Mart/Magnavox already have a $98 blu-ray player available.

No nightsurge, Sony is the smallest holder for the optical disc drive in terms of value for intellectual property actually, I doubt that they even get 10% of (that) pie.

But, Sony has 100% of the IP for the disc, as the disc format is sony's sole creation. So for every disc sold, Sony will get 11 cents. Halo game sales alone will give Sony almost a million dollars

The current $99 price is just a temporary sale.  But it will soon be permanent, the "new normal" for entry level players.   So, its going to be a fun time for HD movie people everywhere and this will only help the good guys. 

matt247 said: dallas said: nightsurge said: Of those 11 cents, how much reaches Sony? They are only a 1/6th or 1/8th owner of the Blu-Ray tech. So 1-2 cents isn't that much Also, Sony has made computer parts used in Windows PC's for ages so I just don't get where you are going with this. They make DVD drives, and before that they made CD drives. They also make some of the nicer desktop and laptop models for MS's Windows platform..... Sony and MS have always been benefiting from eachother.... Sure, they probably get an 1/8 or less of the optical drive share....but they get 100%of the royalties from the sales of the discs that's why I keep bringing up the point of the disc sales.  Now, 11 cents per disc isn't going to hobble MS but it will be noticed, and it will be enough to help Sony. Why would they get money from MS? they'll be getting it from WB

Sorry, I was talking about game sales.  If the 720 uses a BD based game then.......

The Walmart/Magnavox deal is a new product.  It is a permanent $98 BD player.  Not a sale. Scratch that.  I guess I misunderstood the announcement I saw yesterday

And can I see your source that says ONLY Sony owns the IP and gets all the royalties?  I've never looked into it but thought the entire Blu-Ray Disc Association got the royalties since they jointly developed the format, not Sony alone.  I could be mistaken because I never looked into it, this is just what I've heard around these parts in the past.

Sony created and originated the Blu ray just like they created the betamax just like they created etc etc etc but this time, it is working.

I just want a source.  Like I said I thought the Blu-Ray Disc Association jointly developed it this time.

No, the BDA is for the marketing and promotion of the Blu ray so that it will grow. I will try to find a source for you presently.