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theRepublic said:
This thread makes me long for the days when the only decision you had to make about a TV was how big you wanted it to be.

I'll probably be looking into getting a HDTV soon. How do you know if it has a good upscaler?

I really miss that times... :( You can do as I said, and try it.

However, here are my recomendations:

- LCD: Phillips 9000, Sharp Aquos

-Plasma: Panasonic (PZ series or above) - I would also say Pionnier, but the TV division no longer exists :(



     

 

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theRepublic said:
This thread makes me long for the days when the only decision you had to make about a TV was how big you wanted it to be.

I'll probably be looking into getting a HDTV soon. How do you know if it has a good upscaler?

I can give you a huge list of things that you should check for while shopping for a TV, but there are a few simple things you can do to make it easy. Also, you have to remember that hardly any sources actually transmit at 480p, so only DVDs, Wii, PS2, XBox, and a few other devices will actually transmit at this problem resolution. 480i doesn't seem to cause nearly as many problems.

As for buying a TV I suggest doing the following

1) Pick a price range - This is important, because it prevents you from saying, hey, this TV is only $100 more about 10 times

2) Go online and do some research (cnet is good, but they are very tough on their reviews) and pick a handful of TVs you'd like to try out.

3) Take a source that you are familiar with (blu-ray or DVD disc, or possibly even your Wii with a familiar game) and have them play the source. Since you are familiar with the Source material you can better judge how you like the image

4) Play with all the TV settings, see what it can do and how it looks "the best" by your eyes.

5) buy the one that fits your price range, size requirements, feature needs, and looks the best to you, completely ignoring any review information unless it is pertaining to expected time before failure. In the end, it really comes down to if you like the picture, not if reviewers like the picture.

I did everything above but bring in a source that could output 480p and that is the only major gripe I have about my 3 year old TV.




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Oddly enough, the only way to resolve the jaggies issue is to make the image look worse, as others have suggested. 480i it, or lower TV's sharpness, but in all cases only worse is better



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Lord Flashheart said:
I swear Rogue Leader will always looks awesome no matter what gen we are in.

 

this !

I don't know how they did it ( can u explain me ? did they use some special technology? ) but Rogue Leader was, is and will be an optical highlight for many years to come.

- no jaggies at all

- perfect plane models

- superb blaster effects

- looks like the film

 

and it is even great in terms of gameplay !

 

 

rogue leader is a game for eternity.

 

 

edit : i've only played the first one, can u recommend me the 2nd aswell ? is it anygood near the 1st ?



How can 720p be considered HD when it looks like ugly snow grains on my 22'' screen?

 

 

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1200p|is|FullHD said:
Lord Flashheart said:
I swear Rogue Leader will always looks awesome no matter what gen we are in.

 

this !

I don't know how they did it ( can u explain me ? did they use some special technology? ) but Rogue Leader was, is and will be an optical highlight for many years to come.

- no jaggies at all

- perfect plane models

- superb blaster effects

- looks like the film

 

and it is even great in terms of gameplay !

rogue leader is a game for eternity.

edit : i've only played the first one, can u recommend me the 2nd aswell ? is it anygood near the 1st ?

Hah, it looks better than the film

The second third one has the entire first second one with a co-op mode on it... so yes.

The walking levels are a bit dull, but the usual flying and other non-flying levels are great (the AT-ST, and the speeder bikes are awesome), and you can race them in a two player mode, or dogfight either in the sky or using AT-STs. And it looks better than the first one two (it kinda has a slightly more dirty look like the film, while RS2 looked like all the ships has been powerwashed)

I sold some GC games a couple of weeks back, and couldn't bring myself to sell either of them.

And although I still think RS2 is the better game (even though it has less in it RS3 is brought down by having the on foot bits in) my favourite bit of both games is in RS3, that being attacking the super star-destroyer, which is like a cross between the trench run (but much longer) and the Battle of Endor (the best bit from RS2)



I can recommend it.
The speeders level is such good fun. Try doing it with boost on all the time.

I remember when it came out and I said if only the films space scenes looked this good.
It does look better than the film. Will be a long time before a game manages to do that again.



Dazkarieh said:
Manos said:

Oh gee, I did not know that?! Do you think that I refer to LCD-panel with "screen"? Of course I was talking about my tv which includes the f*ing scaler.

 

@Dazkarieh

37" samsung, B656 series.

Manos, Samsung have an awful upscale quality. It has a good screen, bright collors (that many love, I don't like), but the upscale engine is painful.

The best upscale quality I saw was PHillips (9000 series) and Sharp Aquos. If you have any doubts, just grab your Wii and go to a electronic store (with a component cable, of course) and try it. That was how I choose my TV.

I don't know about earlier models, they might have had bad scaler chips. I did some research before buying my screen and I did not see any complains about the scaler. In fact out of those screens which were reviewed, this model got the best scores for upscaled image quality.



NJ5 said:
Manos said:

480p native screen? Is there that kind of screens? Yes, the wii graphics is the issue here. I can't stand those jaggies at all.

Yes. Any ED/HD CRT can display 480p natively, and there are 480p LCDs too (though those are more rare).

Did you play games before this gen? Could you stand the graphics then?

 

What is your point? I was happy with graphics back then but I fail to see why I should stand that kind of quality now. Care to explain?



Lord Flashheart said:
I can recommend it.
The speeders level is such good fun. Try doing it with boost on all the time.

I remember when it came out and I said if only the films space scenes looked this good.
It does look better than the film. Will be a long time before a game manages to do that again.

It helps that the films were over 20 years older than the game.

If a game was made now about a film 20 years old (and the game was about bits without human models needed) then it too would look better than the film.