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Aiemond on 22 July 2009
sguy78 said:
We won't be losing hi-def gaming.

We don't lose hollywood blockbusters either. What hollywood is now kinda seems like what gaming will be.



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Arius Dion on 22 July 2009
Aiemond said:
sguy78 said:
We won't be losing hi-def gaming.

We don't lose hollywood blockbusters either. What hollywood is now kinda seems like what gaming will be.

If it continues down this path, then absolutely. But I'm not sure this is in the best interest of gaming.



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NiKKoM on 22 July 2009
badgenome said:
leo-j said:
WHATT???

GTA IV was $100 million to make?? Thats crazy

Small price to pay for the game that killed the Wii.

I still hate GTA IV for that... the Wii was doing well untill that moment.. :(



 

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senortaco on 22 July 2009
Aiemond said:
Squilliam said:
The top 3 games are

Wii Sports (Bundled with the highest selling console)

Wii Play (Bundled with a Wiimote for $10 more)

Wii Fit (I personally wouldn't call it a game)

Then you have the rest rounded out by a few more 'story driven' games like Assassins Creed.

Heres a newsflash for anyone and everyone who may be obsessed with the 'games cost is ruining the industry manta'. So long as there are 'economic profits' for companies to enter the games industry or for current game companies to increase their profits they will do so until the net 'economic profit' whether its Wii or HD console reaches 0. Infact the best strategy for the industry giants is to go full swing into the rising costs and totally beef up the cost and risk of the games and thereby reduce competition and increase profits.

So in short, Wii = no profit long term, HD = profit long term.


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OH! I thought he was being serious, I didn't know he was employing a Rol tactic, lol. Yeah I'll have to agree with you then on Rol doing it better, lol.



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senortaco on 22 July 2009
Arius Dion said:
Aiemond said:
sguy78 said:
We won't be losing hi-def gaming.

We don't lose hollywood blockbusters either. What hollywood is now kinda seems like what gaming will be.

If it continues down this path, then absolutely. But I'm not sure this is in the best interest of gaming.

THIS!!! Whats the biggest complaint that people have with movies now? All the sequels...and doing "reimagining" of movies that were blockbusters. When a remake gets a REMAKE sequel (Halloween 2) You KNOW theres a problem...Some would say that alot of this is happening NOW in gaming...



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peachbuggy on 22 July 2009

In case Squilliam was being serious then perhaps he should look at the next-best selling game on the list. What was that? Mario kart? Anything to say to discredit this title then? And so on...



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Veder Juda on 22 July 2009

The problem with counting on DLC and Digital Distribution is that there is only a fixed amount of money to go after. Downloading cuts out middlemen, and shuts down the used game market, which allows the developers to get more, but there is a ceiling to what they get; so if the development costs keep rising, then they are only delaying the inevitable.

The Wii's success has brought new people in, which also brings fresh money in, meaning more revenue to go around; but this audience may have different tastes and demands than the old audience, so it doesn't necessarily mean more money for those expensive AAA games.

The only real solution is to find a ceiling and stay below it. If a new generation of consoles comes out with more powerful graphics that demand a huge increase in development costs, developers should just say "No".



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NJ5 on 22 July 2009

One of things that struck me about the article was a lot of talk about "declining profits".

I haven't much in terms of "declining profits". What I have seen in a lot of publishers is big losses. Even the big publishers are losing money these days. The biggest exceptions seem to be Activision-Blizzard (with the WoW cash cow, it would be hard to make a loss) and Ubisoft.

 



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Arius Dion on 22 July 2009
NJ5 said:

One of things that struck me about the article was a lot of talk about "declining profits".

I haven't much in terms of "declining profits". What I have seen in a lot of publishers is big losses. Even the big publishers are losing money these days. The biggest exceptions seem to be Activision-Blizzard (with the WoW cash cow, it would be hard to make a loss) and Ubisoft.

 


LoL, that's true. Its not so much declining profits as it is rising losses, ha.



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Veder Juda on 22 July 2009
NJ5 said:

One of things that struck me about the article was a lot of talk about "declining profits".

I haven't much in terms of "declining profits". What I have seen in a lot of publishers is big losses. Even the big publishers are losing money these days. The biggest exceptions seem to be Activision-Blizzard (with the WoW cash cow, it would be hard to make a loss) and Ubisoft.

 

Wow, this industry is so amazing, they don't bother with declining profits, they just skip straight to the red ink.



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