I didn't see the Man Utd game but I heard it was a very boaring match with little chances.

It's pre season and it doesn't matter whether you win or lose, ive always said that. The way your team plays under new formations and tactics is more important than the result in pre season that is. I find it sickening that people have a party when Utd lose, I mean what have your clubs done?

they're such a big club though, that some people just like to see other, less successful teams succeeding every now and again.

@Trashleg

Did you just call Bayern Munchen a less successful team????

not at all. i was talking in general, like in terms of the english premier league... dont hurt me...

Ok... i was about to start yelling why Bayern is one of the most important teams in Europe x) but ok, i know what you mean. People like to see the big one fall...... just look at how many people hate the wii x)

haha thank you for not yelling at me! in the UK (especially the Prem. League, which i dont really follow) there are definite underdogs, and its good to see them beat the big teams every now and again. gies them hope, and keeps the big stars on their toes

Sorry I'm this late but.... Juventus 2-1 Real Madrid.

Real madrid is out of the peace cup xD "nalga" Ronaldo only scores by penalty, w/o kaka this team won't do anything.

I just want Real to be succesful because of Pellegrini and Kaka, he seems like a nice person and I would prefer having him in my team than Ronaldo, after watching Milan vs Bayern, it was clear what Kaka was doing for Milan.

Of course. Ronaldo is way overrated. He is good, i wont deny it. But he is not the best. He is NOT better than kaka. B/c is not about who can score, or do dribbles. It's about leadership too. Ronaldo always disappears in the big games. Kaka doesn't. Kaka and Messi are the best for me. After the Ronaldinho era, it was obvious that either kaka or Messi were going to carry on. Ronaldo is  good, but not the best.

Agree, Kaka is a more mature player, even if he is not old at all, I think he does a much better work when the team is losing or playing bad, yeah, Ronaldo is great and maybe would do more when the team is playing great, but he sinks with the team when its playing bad like we saw in the champions final, and like I saw today.

I thnk Kaka can make RM play good again and maybe do something in the Champions.