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madskillz said:

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Yeah - I have been all over N.O.  - Garden District, Metarie, Gentilly, 9th Ward, New Orleans East - it was my old stomping grounds. Very, very, very familiar with the area. Visited right after Katrina and hurt me to my heart. That said, of course I know whites are the minority - but my op-ed - and that's all it was - was about an undertone. What's an undertone? Lawd, not trying to start anything, but an undertone is an undercurrent - something folks may or may not see. Did you read that article? Did you see what I said? And that stuff about RE5 - which I have played - was actually brought up by three gamers - all co-workers - and you'll never guess what race they were. Two are white - one is half Asian, half white. And they wholeheartedly endorsed and agreed with my post. I do too. It's my view on it.

Honestly, I got a very rare opportunity - to be in the midst of this thread, see your real thoughts about my views.

Comeon, folks - keep the party going. Be real - just because it's me, don't stop it. I'm still the same guy who doesn't understand the Civil War - who apparently says L4D2 was racist, as well as RE5.

The sheer amount of attention to my opinion is staggering.

 

Technically speaking, Metairie really isn't part of New Orleans. They like to think of themselves as independant and a seperate city and all that jazz. Mostly this is just white flight in action. Given that you actually listed it as a part of NO I am inclined to believe you must have spent a decent amount of time here. So, you win that round of criticism.

Yes, I have read your original article, and disagree with it on several other points to match. Given you seem to at least reference a lot of my problems in passing I won't bother going into them. It is unlikely you are going to listen to what I have to say, and I have no interest in getting a statement that you disagree and going back and forth for a few pages. I will focus on that one off paragraph for a number of reasons. Mostly because it was such an incredibly bad idea to include a trivial point in your argument and completley under-cuts anything else you try to say.

Any shooter set in NO should have you shooting black people. Thats the high and low of it. There is no 2 ways about this. Walk around the actual city and you will (and have) notice the racial mix. I suppose the one exception to this rule would be a tourist hunting game, and I am all for that being made. Claiming that having several black zombies could be a racist undertone is completely ridiculous though. It is playing the race card in the worst of ways. Pulling stupid shit like that hurts the push to perfect racial equality rather than helping it. If black people become some separate and special race that can't be used like others then they will ALWAYS be viewed differently.

As for RE5, well I can't comment on the game itself. Never really played it. Your comments in the blog though sound incredibly racist as well. Why is it wrong to have black zombies as the enemy? Why does it even matter hmm? I don't care what color the people who agreed with you are. I really just couldn't care less where an opinion comes from. If you want to cry racism at every little turn you are more than welcome to. However, so long as you try to see the races as needing to be treated differently you will never be able to even help realize true racial equality. Maintaining seperate and distinct rule for different categories of people will always hurt the cause. Always.



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After watching left 4 dead 2 footage, where exactly is the racism?

Now Resident Evil 5. Thats some racism right there.



It's racist because some of the Zombies are whitey.



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Dinomax said:
After watching left 4 dead 2 footage, where exactly is the racism?

Now Resident Evil 5. Thats some racism right there.

Why? Because i takes place in Africa or because they portray Africa as being inhabited by Africans? The real evil folks in RE5 are white guys anyway...

I didn't see anyone screaming in agony over shooting Spanish people in RE4. Why is that? I really don't see how racism can effect only people of a certain skintone, I was subjected to racism myself about a week ago.



Mummelmann said:
Dinomax said:
After watching left 4 dead 2 footage, where exactly is the racism?

Now Resident Evil 5. Thats some racism right there.

1-Why? Because i takes place in Africa or because they portray Africa as being inhabited by Africans? The real evil folks in RE5 are white guys anyway...

2-I didn't see anyone screaming in agony over shooting Spanish people in RE4. Why is that? I really don't see how racism can effect only people of a certain skintone, I was subjected to racism myself about a week ago.

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God your so racist against Portugese you think they speak spanish...WHAT YOU GOT AGAINST LATINOS? 

 

 

Does this image of a latino man make you feel nervous?  Yeah I bet you are.

 



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Racism is just ass. It is such a sensitive subject that people are all up in arms every time there is any indication that there might be even a slight amount of racism. Most notable against Africans and African-Americans...you can kill a million Nazis, burn down a whole Spanish Village, shoot some South American Drug Lords and kill the whole Yakuza gang....but as soon as there is one African or African-American killed (whether it be a Zombie, a mutant, mind control or whatever)....all of a sudden it's racist. That to me is hyper sensitivity on the issue...and people need to get a grip on reality, and see it for what it really is.



Dinomax said:
Mummelmann said:
Dinomax said:
After watching left 4 dead 2 footage, where exactly is the racism?

Now Resident Evil 5. Thats some racism right there.

1-Why? Because i takes place in Africa or because they portray Africa as being inhabited by Africans? The real evil folks in RE5 are white guys anyway...

2-I didn't see anyone screaming in agony over shooting Spanish people in RE4. Why is that? I really don't see how racism can effect only people of a certain skintone, I was subjected to racism myself about a week ago.

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God your so racist against Portugese you think they speak spanish...WHAT YOU GOT AGAINST LATINOS? 

 

 

Does this image of a latino man make you feel nervous?  Yeah I bet you are.

 

That man will build me a porch in five days and rob me blind in 5 seconds! Of course he scares me!

Luckily, I am myself a descendant of honest people, Gypsy and such...



Yeah, the Black community has taken it and run. This actually stirs up racism, which makes black people feel more discriminated against...and it's just a vicious cycle. Politicians are constantly wearing racism on their sleeve using it to make minorities feel victimized, and white people feel guilty, it's a win for the politicians, but a lose for America. Can we please stop using racism as a crutch?



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Black people(and muslims too I suppose) are more racist then white people. Why do the white always get the fault? Pretty much every black person has prejudices about white people. Atleast in my country, I got called a racist more then 10 times already because I was looking at a Muslim, just LOOKING. And then people find it strange that a lot of people vote for Vlaams Belang and NVA here(politcal parties that want to divide our country in 2 and want to stop immigration)

in the 1930's Germans are White...And they..well you know...

In America Natives Tribe folk and Africans were slaves for hundreds of years..."Blacks" were slaves up till the 1900's...

Romans were white....Guess what type of stuff they did to colored people....

Acient Greeks are white...they more than likely have killed more colored people than any other group of "white" people...

There are Alot of "white" muslims...so I'm not sure what your getting at...

Don't pretend that "Blacks" are just complainers....

 


They are, all the things you said were in the past and all blacks that lived then are dead, there for the blacks living today were no slaves.

 

By the way, did you know that most Jews in Germany were WHITE? Aint that a shocker! Gay people and communists also went to the konzentrationslager(concentration camps)

Do you want to know all the terrible things that were done in Africa by black people? Most people are poor there and live in terrible conditions because the BLACK leaders are corrupt as hell. Take a look at my fav country, congo :) They wanted wanted to be independant so badly, but look how that turned out.

About the Romans: They did terrible things to everyone, not just black people. Spartacus was white and so were a lot of slaves that supported him and they all got crusified. It's so easy to spin history in your manipulating black people are the victim right?

Do you want to know all the terrible stuff that happenend in Africa before the white people started going there? Well, they couldn't write, so we'll never know, but please don't think it was heaven there. Yeah, there are a lot of white muslims, but a lot more colored muslims.

Do you want to know all the terrible genocides that took place in Joegoslavia? That war started in 1991 by the way and lasted untill 2000.

I don't pretend blacks are just complainers, I know the current generation of blacks(well certainly not all) are just complainers.

 

You want to know what Mobutu did? He went to a university with his special army and killed lots of studends because they were having a protest without violence. Oh yes, blacks are saints... No, they're not, they're just as bad as white people. They just weren't as smart in the past as white people and that's why we dominated them.



And what about zombie animals? why aren't Greenpeace chaining themselves to PS3 and Xboxes?

it is like you have a 2nd world war game and aren't allowed to show swastika's

all game characters should be blue no one would be offended, on the smurfs would be!