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Pyro as Bill on 18 July 2009
kowenicki said:

@mrstickball

well I make it 2...

Economic Left/Right: 2.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.79


I'll make it 3

  



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mrstickball on 18 July 2009
ManusJustus said:
HappySqurriel said:
ManusJustus said:
HappySqurriel said:
ManusJustus said:
mrstickball said:
HappySquirrel is the first person I've ever seen to classify as a right-leaning libertarian from PoliticalCompass.org. Interesting.

There are a lot less libertarians and communists for a reason, and people who think they fall under that category probably arent as extreme as they think they are.  My reasoning is as follows:

People want some freedom and some control in their lives.  Most people who want the market to be as free as possible also want to control their social environment by limiting gay rights, putting more religion into politics, and taking social freedoms away to protect themselves from terrorists (Patriot Act).  However, most people who want more control over the economy also want more social freedoms.

This is why most people (in respect to this test and system of analysis) lay somewhere on a diagonal line from social conservative and economic liberal (upper right corner) to social liberal and economic conservative/authoritarian (lower left corner).  Effectively choosing where they want freedom and where they want some control in their lives.

You tend not to see too many people who fall along the other diagonal primarily because the questions do not do an adequate job of testing people's beliefs in these areas ...

Real world evidence would also have me reach the same conclusion as mainstream politics follow the pattern I previously described  A simple example being American Republicans and Democrats, Democrats want more social freedoms and more control on the economy while Republicans want more economic freedoms and more social control.

Libertarians and Communists are fringe political beliefs, atleast for a majority of the world population.  I dont know of any libertarian governments and communist governments face protest from their population who demand more social or economic freedom.

 

Consider (for a moment) that many Democrats want to decriminalize marijuana but at the same time they promote bans and higher taxes on smoking, are currently promoting higher taxes (and potentially bans) on unhealthy food, and are some of the most involved in regulating the content in videogames. In what way do these actions demonstrate a political party that supports lower government involvement in people's personal lives?

Don't be fooled by the marketing, very few politicians are really supportive of a smaller centeralized government with less involvement in your personal lives or the economy. All they're really doing is selling you one freedom for the cost of two.

Even though you've gave examples of Democrats violating social freedoms, I'm still quite confident that the Democrats want less social involvement in people's lives than Republicans.  On major issues such as gay rights, abortion, terrorist surveillance, and religion, Democrats want more freedoms.  On issues regarding the ecomony, Republicans want more freedoms.

What about personal freedoms in healthcare, education and retirement? The Democrats seem soundly against that. I agree that Dems want less government involvement in social issues, but more government involvement in everything else. One really doesn't trump the other in the idea of liberty - freedom is freedom regardless if it's social, economic, speech or anything else.



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Jackson50 on 18 July 2009

I am a nominal Republican. I have supported few GOP candidates in the past two elections. I have mostly supported Libertarian candidates with a few Democrat and US Taxpayers' (Constitution Party) candidates thrown in.



Slimebeast on 18 July 2009




Test sux cause Im in fact conservative.



mrstickball on 18 July 2009

Slime - Take the politicalcompass test instead. Much better.



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Slimebeast on 18 July 2009
mrstickball said:
Slime - Take the politicalcompass test instead. Much better.


Ok, done.

 

 

 

Your political compass

Economic Left/Right: 4.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.13



elprincipe on 18 July 2009

Okay, I've taken these before but it was a while ago, so I'll give it another shot.  The first one is pretty far out there and I think not a good representation of my beliefs, but here goes.



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Moonhero on 18 July 2009

I got an 80-30 on my test. Not too bad. lol



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Sqrl on 18 July 2009

Here is a composite of everyone who has posted thus far:

 

edit:

And just cause here is a blink comparator between us and the grouping MrStick Linked:

It's a 40/18 split conservative vs liberal in the National Electorate for the US so it's not surprising most politicians end up solidly right, but part of it is also due to the compass being based on a more global view of politics.  What is most interesting is the Authoritarian Views of politicians versus the Libertarian views of this community.  While the dividing line within the community seems to be where the government should be less authoratitive.

An interesting question to me is whether the banding that happens with the groups is due to a defficiency of the test, a product of rational thinking requiring a certain degree of consistent thought which forces a limited conformity on minor issues from agreement in major issues, or a bit of both.
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SciFiBoy on 18 July 2009
Sqrl said:

Here is a composite of everyone who has posted thus far:

 

edit:

And just cause here is a blink comparator between us and the grouping MrStick Linked:

It's a 40/18 split conservative vs liberal in the National Electorate for the US so it's not surprising most politicians end up solidly right, but part of it is also due to the compass being based on a more global view of politics.  What is most interesting is the Authoritarian Views of politicians versus the Libertarian views of this community.  While the dividing line within the community seems to be where the government should be less authoratitive.

An interesting question to me is whether the banding that happens with the groups is due to a defficiency of the test, a product of rational thinking requiring a certain degree of consistent thought which forces a limited conformity on minor issues from agreement in major issues, or a bit of both.

cool, nicely done.