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Sardauk said:
angrypoolman said:
yea its so awesome. liberals are just so cool with their fancy stealing and such. i just love how everything is 'fair' when the liberals are involved. theyre good at making everything 'fair'

It is funny to see how US is a patriotic country.... but when you talk about money, it is every man for himself... nice mentality...


its a great mentality. id rather have everybody in this country keep what they and their family have worked for than the government coming in and redistributing wealth at the expense of hard working people. whats going to happen when those people stop putting up with that shit and leave?



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Actually it's not every man for himself. You see, America leads the world in charitable donations per capita. We believe in helping ourselves. We depend on each other. It is because our patriotism is so strong that we help each other ourselves without the intrusion of unwarranted government bureaucracy in the process.

It might sounds like an odd concept to those outside the US but it works for us.



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Viper1 said:

Actually it's not every man for himself. You see, America leads the world in charitable donations per capita. We believe in helping ourselves. We depend on each other. It is because our patriotism is so strong that we help each other ourselves without the intrusion of unwarranted government bureaucracy in the process.

It might sounds like an odd concept to those outside the US but it works for us.

It sounds odd indeed

I understand what you mean with the charitable donations... but isn't the risk of this sytem to just maintain a status quo and not proposing real solution ?

In this economical context, how many chances have poor people to reach higher social conditions ?

 

Here in Europe it is a bit a West vs East situation. People got mad when the Union send tons of money to the east (post-communist countries) but it worked. It created new markets and a new economical situation.



 

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Sardauk said:
Viper1 said:

Actually it's not every man for himself. You see, America leads the world in charitable donations per capita. We believe in helping ourselves. We depend on each other. It is because our patriotism is so strong that we help each other ourselves without the intrusion of unwarranted government bureaucracy in the process.

It might sounds like an odd concept to those outside the US but it works for us.

It sounds odd indeed

I understand what you mean with the charitable donations... but isn't the risk of this sytem to just maintain a status quo and not proposing real solution ?

In this economical context, how many chances have poor people to reach higher social conditions ?

 

Here in Europe it is a bit a West vs East situation. People got mad when the Union send tons of money to the east (post-communist countries) but it worked. It created new markets and a new economical situation.

You can invest tax payer money to help up an already fallen country as Europe did but pushign tax payer money for a system that is worse off that what we already have is a bad idea.  Especially when better reform is already commonly known and that's simply to get government out of it altogether and let the market work.

 

You can trace our massive cost upswing with the intervention of the government in the 70's.   Before then a family could normally tend to most of their entire healthcare problems right out of pocket.  Then government got involved by establishing HMO's and all went downhill from there.



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Regardless of your political opinions, something has to be done because healthcare is bankrupting this nation. The United States pay three times more for healthcare than similar countries like the United Kingdom, so its obvious that we are doing something wrong.



Indeed we are paying too much which is the result of price snowballs and no competition.

Infusing our tax dollars won't affects the costs any at all. In fact it may increase more for the very reasons I just noted will be in play even more.



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ManusJustus said:

Regardless of your political opinions, something has to be done because healthcare is bankrupting this nation. The United States pay three times more for healthcare than similar countries like the United Kingdom, so its obvious that we are doing something wrong.

What ?

I understand that USA and GB are in a terrible healthcare situation so... where does the money go ?

Considering Belgium's standards, you are nowhere with your systems so... I'm a bit supprised to read that it is bankrupting both countries.

 



 

Evan Wells (Uncharted 2): I think the differences that you see between any two games has much more to do with the developer than whether it’s on the Xbox or PS3.

Sardauk said:
Viper1 said:

Actually it's not every man for himself. You see, America leads the world in charitable donations per capita. We believe in helping ourselves. We depend on each other. It is because our patriotism is so strong that we help each other ourselves without the intrusion of unwarranted government bureaucracy in the process.

It might sounds like an odd concept to those outside the US but it works for us.

It sounds odd indeed

I understand what you mean with the charitable donations... but isn't the risk of this sytem to just maintain a status quo and not proposing real solution ?

In this economical context, how many chances have poor people to reach higher social conditions ?

 

Here in Europe it is a bit a West vs East situation. People got mad when the Union send tons of money to the east (post-communist countries) but it worked. It created new markets and a new economical situation.

The US actually has better social mobility then Europe.

The way the system works in europe... it's more likely to create generational welfare.



Sardauk said:
ManusJustus said:

Regardless of your political opinions, something has to be done because healthcare is bankrupting this nation. The United States pay three times more for healthcare than similar countries like the United Kingdom, so its obvious that we are doing something wrong.

What ?

I understand that USA and GB are in a terrible healthcare situation so... where does the money go ?

Considering Belgium's standards, you are nowhere with your systems so... I'm a bit supprised to read that it is bankrupting both countries.

 

I don't know why you're tarring the UK's and the US's system with the same brush. They're completely different.