By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Sony - If sony only made software who should they support?

vaio on 10 July 2009
mibuokami said:
Shadowblind said:

I'd say that for a while, they may support mainly Ninty, since it was only after MS entered the console warz did their domination end, depending on available hardware. Still afterwards they'd probably take the SEGA route and do multi.

And as many will need to come in here and say..."its not ever gonna happen, etc."


By that logic, Sega should have supported Nintendo exclusively as Sony was one of the big reason on why they failed with the Saturn / Dreamcast

 

Don't fool yourself, honour is dead.

Long live money our eternal master in the corporate world.

No they wouldn´t before Sony entered Nintendo was Sega´s biggest enemy and I am still suprised they actually pot anything on a Nintendo system. The biggest reason Sega went out was themselves Sony only helped making the procedure faster.



Vaio - "Bury me at Milanello"      R.I.P AC Milan

In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird.
Now the world is weird  and people take Prozac  to make it normal.

If laughing is the best medicine and marijuana makes you laugh

Is marijuana the best medicine?

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."

“If any creator has not played Mario, then they’re probably not a good creator. That’s something I can say with 100 percent confidence. Mario is, for game creators, the development bible.

Around the Network
Undying on 10 July 2009
vaio said:
Undying said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Assuming they go third party like Sega, their best option is always multiplatform.

Do you think that Sony still holds a grudge against Nintendo? Nintendo did screw them over back in the early 90's.

Get your facts straight, Sony tried to steal Nintendo´s IP´s and thats why Nintendo backed out of the deal if they didn´t then Sony would own all of Nintendo´s IP´s today. So it was Sony that tried to screw Nintendo when Nintendo hired them for a cd-rom device.

Never heard that part of the story.




Times Banned: 12

Press----------------> <----------------Press

dsister44 on 10 July 2009

If they had to pull out of the console race, then they would have had lose alot of money. If this was the case could see them just selling off most of their 1st party studios. While keeping some of them to work on pc games.

but on topic: they would most likely support Microsoft till the next console generation, and support the newcomer



MontanaHatchet on 10 July 2009

Know the funny thing about grudges? They're pretty quickly erased when billions of dollars are on the line. Sega had two options when they were forced third party: Hold their grudges and go bankrupt, or develop for Sony and Nintendo, who had kicked them around for 2 and 3 generations (respectively)?

Even CEOs aren't so juvenile as to jeopardize their company because of grudges.



 

 

dsister44 on 10 July 2009
MontanaHatchet said:
Know the funny thing about grudges? They're pretty quickly erased when billions of dollars are on the line. Sega had two options when they were forced third party: Hold their grudges and go bankrupt, or develop for Sony and Nintendo, who had kicked them around for 2 and 3 generations (respectively)?

Even CEOs aren't so juvenile as to jeopardize their company because of grudges.

But if I remember correctly when the Xbox first came out Sega supported it with alot of exclusive games. Though I am not sure if Microsoft "moneyhatted" them



Around the Network
MontanaHatchet on 10 July 2009
dsister44 said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Know the funny thing about grudges? They're pretty quickly erased when billions of dollars are on the line. Sega had two options when they were forced third party: Hold their grudges and go bankrupt, or develop for Sony and Nintendo, who had kicked them around for 2 and 3 generations (respectively)?

Even CEOs aren't so juvenile as to jeopardize their company because of grudges.

But if I remember correctly when the Xbox first came out Sega supported it with alot of exclusive games. Though I am not sure if Microsoft "moneyhatted" them

Yeah, I remember that. All the games flopped, and they were forced to support the PS2 and Gamecube, where their games were much more successful. At least, if memory serves.



 

 

dsister44 on 10 July 2009
MontanaHatchet said:
dsister44 said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Know the funny thing about grudges? They're pretty quickly erased when billions of dollars are on the line. Sega had two options when they were forced third party: Hold their grudges and go bankrupt, or develop for Sony and Nintendo, who had kicked them around for 2 and 3 generations (respectively)?

Even CEOs aren't so juvenile as to jeopardize their company because of grudges.

But if I remember correctly when the Xbox first came out Sega supported it with alot of exclusive games. Though I am not sure if Microsoft "moneyhatted" them

Yeah, I remember that. All the games flopped, and they were forced to support the PS2 and Gamecube, where their games were much more successful. At least, if memory serves.

I do not know. Vgchartz only has numbers for Panzer dragoon orta which is at .05. though Jsrf/sega racer were bundled with my xbox, so I am not sure how well that one did.

 

edit: i didn't check Shemue 2



vaio on 10 July 2009
Undying said:
vaio said:
Undying said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Assuming they go third party like Sega, their best option is always multiplatform.

Do you think that Sony still holds a grudge against Nintendo? Nintendo did screw them over back in the early 90's.

Get your facts straight, Sony tried to steal Nintendo´s IP´s and thats why Nintendo backed out of the deal if they didn´t then Sony would own all of Nintendo´s IP´s today. So it was Sony that tried to screw Nintendo when Nintendo hired them for a cd-rom device.

Never heard that part of the story.

Then do the reasearch and you will see



Vaio - "Bury me at Milanello"      R.I.P AC Milan

In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird.
Now the world is weird  and people take Prozac  to make it normal.

If laughing is the best medicine and marijuana makes you laugh

Is marijuana the best medicine?

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."

“If any creator has not played Mario, then they’re probably not a good creator. That’s something I can say with 100 percent confidence. Mario is, for game creators, the development bible.

mibuokami on 10 July 2009
vaio said:
Undying said:
vaio said:
Undying said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Assuming they go third party like Sega, their best option is always multiplatform.

Do you think that Sony still holds a grudge against Nintendo? Nintendo did screw them over back in the early 90's.

Get your facts straight, Sony tried to steal Nintendo´s IP´s and thats why Nintendo backed out of the deal if they didn´t then Sony would own all of Nintendo´s IP´s today. So it was Sony that tried to screw Nintendo when Nintendo hired them for a cd-rom device.

Never heard that part of the story.

Then do the reasearch and you will see

Um can you provide some link? Because as far I was aware, the whole situation of Nintendo backing out stem from media distrubtion with Nintendo uncomfortable with Sony owning the medium the right to distrube (CD) and has nothing to do with IP which would have remained with Nintendo...




mibuokami on 10 July 2009
vaio said:
mibuokami said:
Shadowblind said:

I'd say that for a while, they may support mainly Ninty, since it was only after MS entered the console warz did their domination end, depending on available hardware. Still afterwards they'd probably take the SEGA route and do multi.

And as many will need to come in here and say..."its not ever gonna happen, etc."


By that logic, Sega should have supported Nintendo exclusively as Sony was one of the big reason on why they failed with the Saturn / Dreamcast

 

Don't fool yourself, honour is dead.

Long live money our eternal master in the corporate world.

No they wouldn´t before Sony entered Nintendo was Sega´s biggest enemy and I am still suprised they actually pot anything on a Nintendo system. The biggest reason Sega went out was themselves Sony only helped making the procedure faster.

So you think the Wii hasn't stolen some market share of the PS3 as well? Shadowblind was singling out MS who are instrumental in bringing Sony to its current position but a large part of the problem was also Sony mismanagement. Sega lost market share to both Nintendo and Sony, but the lionshare whent to Sony, they've also made some terrible bussiness decision, much more so than even Sony.

I'm drawing similiar parallel to counter a similiar situation, not trying to give the correct and up-to-date ananlysis of Sega's downfall :p