@silentmac

I disagree with that statement. Mario Kart is 100x more fun with motion controls. I tried going back to analog stick & i was bored out of my mind. Everything feels like it was going in slow motion.

Also, don't forget action games / beat 'em ups. Imagine how stale No More Heroes would have been with traditional controls.

Well, on the other consoles you can always buy a Wheel. The real advantage to MKWii is that you already had the "wheel" because it came with your system.

Also, I'll throw out there that sandbox games like Godfather are vastly superior with motion control just because you get to beat people to death with your hands, along with strangling, throwing, and all sorts of things. Godfather on Wii is by far the best game when it comes to motion controls.

I agree with your examples.  I meant motion controls make driving games the same on a technical level but I do like them better with motion.  Still, I can't point at a reason why using a Wii Remote is better for driving other than it is more fun.  The Excite games and Mario Kart are great examples, the are much more fun with motion than using a Analog controller but I can't say the controls are much better technically.

Whereas, RTS, FPS, TPS, and Sports games like PES all benefit from the increased accuracy of IR controls.  They are faster paced, more accurate, or have more depth.  I know there are no examples of an RTS with pointer controls but PES is basically a proof of concept for when one finally does come.  TPS is represented quite nicely with Scarface however, I wish there were a better example...   Anyone saying dual analog is better for FPS are just crazy, MP3 and TCon pretty much prove it.  The IGN editors agree with me on this too.

I can't say I see where platformers, fighters, or action/adventure benefit that greatly from motion but I do agree that they add immersion (fun) in games like Godfather, No More Heroes, and Punch-Out!!.

I can't see how motion/IR help games like Smash, Zelda, Galaxy at all though... Hopefully WM+ will change this...

Isn't that the point?  :p

I have a bad feeling that Konami have already killed any chance this game has for commercial success on the Wii.  On a personal note i have been waiting for the franchise to mature on the Wii so there is a good chance i will pick this up when it comes out.

I prefer my classic controler for this game, love how it plays. Just because you played the games doent mean they are superior because you consider them superior, many may disagree with you so dont start talking like you are the final word in this discussion, I have a friend that likes the wii controls for this game, but most people that I know, including me, that play this game, prefer the traditional dualshock controller.

Lol, I have moded PES games, Wining eleven liga chilena, with all the teams and narrator from el canal del futbol xD

You people are crazy.  Keep playing your same tired game then.  The new controls are what make this game special.  Otherwise you might as well be playing FIFA on 360 or PS3.

Also, just because you like to play with one type of control doesn't mean one isn't superior, someone who could control their entire team with IR would destroy you in competitive play.  Just like someone with IR would destroy a Dual analog player in head to head play in FPS.  I sooo hope HVS puts a dual analog option in The Grinder so we can settle this once and for all.  Anyone who uses dual analog against someone who is good with IR would be creamed.

Great news I had 08 (loved it) but passed on 09 because of the wait. I will be picking up the wii version day 1 for sure. Theres no going back to the other control schemes. PES on Wii is awsome.