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I played football in school, and in good shape. I lived in Texas, where football is like a religion, so even if someone could have bullied me, they didn't due to respecting football players. I was never bullied. I happen to also be a nice guy, so I never bullied anyone. I did step in a few times and stop people from getting bullied though.



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I live in a pretty small town not far from NYC, with ~1500 kids for all K-12. Many of them would stick around for all 13 years, so pretty much everyone knows each other.

I could be wrong, but bullying seemed to be pretty uncommon for my year. I'd say maybe only ~5% of the kids were "weird" enough to be picked on. In middle school, those kids would be terrorized by my friends, so much so that one moved out to get away. My involvement was mainly just laughing at what they were doing on the side (yeah, I'm still guilty).

Of course, people grew up, and I didn't see any happen in HS. The main offenders apologized years later, via facebook. Nowadays I'd like to think I'd stick up for the victim if I were in that position again. Regardless, even now we still joke about some of the horrible things we did (yeah, we're fucking terrible people).

Still, I have a hard time believing bullying is that widespread - when I see it in movies, it puzzles me. It seems the reasoning Dodece put up for why bullies mess with people is way different than my friends' - for them, it was more for the laughs. For whatever reason, we were complete assholes when we were in a group, and generally just enjoyed screwing things up. There was never any "solo" bullying, because that'd defeat the purpose. It was also more tame than examples I see, being entirely psychological (teasing, pranks and such). It may be just as bad, but I guess as kids you don't realize how damaging it still is.

It's an interesting subject, though. I'd love to know how other schools behave in different areas / cultures... Recently I've been talking to someone that tells me she were bullied, and I always thought she was in the minority. I guess my school might be the odd one out, though...



Uh neither.

I hung out with quote unquote "cool" kids.

As such, bullying me or one of my friends would just really of cut you out on some of the best parties in school.

Of course there was only like a good 10 people or so in our class who were bullied in the first place.



I really don't understand that not going to parties because you're not one of the cool kids lol... Is America that lame that cool parties are hosted by people from your school? Don't you guys have big parties over there hosted by a company/persons who do it for $$/etc? I guess not seeing as you can only drink when you're 21 in the usa. There are big parties like every week in my country where you have to pay like 5 euros to get in and you also have to pay for your beer ofcourse. Even a 12 year old could get in and drink beer without problems lol. I'm really glad I don't live in the USA lol.



Dodece said:
I have to concur with others. Anyone claiming to have not witnessed bullying is somewhat naive. The reality is that its a social and psychological dynamic. The most rational explanation for your lack of recollection is that you resided within the sphere of protection. Basically the largest clique of the class which ensured that you were not in a position to be dominated. Nor did you feel any need to dominate another to elevate your position.

Bullying behavior is almost always on the outskirts of the social hierarchy. Among the kids that are not part of the in crowd. Obviously you would not know this being inside, but anyone sitting in the outskirts could see this day in and day out. Students generally break into smaller units. I guarantee you that in each of your classes there was a bully, and there was some that were bullied. You were just oblivious to all of it, because it was not part of your scene. Meanwhile the guy at the back of the class is getting tormented regularly by the guy a few rungs higher up the food chain.

Personally I was not bullied as a child, because I was borderline psychotic. I was a mad man with the strength to match, and I was not beyond using any available weapon. I would throw a fist sized rock into your face. Club you with a stick. Claw you with my finger nails, or even stab you with a writing implement. Bottom line I was generally too fucking nuts to be fucked with, and any bully that tried fast found that out.

Thus I found myself a cadre of good friends growing up. Eventually the bullied pick up on the fact that the lunatic on the swing sets was the safe place to be. More times then I can count I was escorting someone home. It did not matter if they had three or four guys coming after them. At the time I was pretty oblivious to it, but recollecting back to the time for some I was probably the only comfort they had.

Speaking to the stereotype of the football playing bullies. That is purely fictional, and is the fodder of Hollywood hacks. The majority of bullies are antisocial misanthropes. Which have little social standing, and have a poor home environment. They bully because they have nothing, and feel poorly about themselves. So they gain a sense of well being by dominating others. Your typical bully only has a couple friends, and he rarely participates in group activities. Basically the bully is at best found in a group of three, and they are also usually the one in trouble for doing everything else wrong.

Then again you guys might not have had issues with bullies, because they are all out living on the streets. The sad truth is that bullies mugging other kids for lunch money is more often then not about the bully getting enough money for them to buy a lunch. Perhaps in South America when you are that low on the totem you probably couldn't even afford to go to school.

On the first statement, I can asure you I knew everyone of my 36 classmates and none where bullied or did bully anyone, we ended up being close friends with everyone.

On the second statement, maybe you dont know but Chile and Argentina are the countries in southamerica  that have the highest living standards, in chile at least everyone goes to school unless the decide to quit, but you cant until you turn 16.



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Im from South America too (Brazil) and I have to say I didn't see "bullying".

Sure some people made fun of others, but it wasnt in any way like what you see in US movies and TV shows, and there was no groups that hated each other.

But there was the jackass who would make fun of the fat or ugly kid, but it was like small stuff. There were no fights or throwing people in trashcans, just jokes.

And as we got older they happened less and less.

So, I still think this bullying thing is more of an american or european thing.

PS - I have to say if you call bullying the act of simply jokes, that I was bullied because I was (am ) fat.



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It's not like the American movies at all in Europe, but bullying does happen a lot here, just not the same way.



Bah, bullying is good, I say. It's character building.

I was bullied for a short while, didn't last long, though, about three weeks. Set 'em straight.



Neither!



 

Yeah I was bullied a bit in elementary school. It got worse in Junior High because the teachers and the principal were good as useless at dealing with bullying which later led to a case of Androphobia(It's not as bad as before) because a lot of my bullies were boys in my class. It got a lot better in High School though because I have more friends and I can defend myself and people.