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kiefer23 on 21 September 2009
Deneidez said:
kiefer23 said:


Those gigantic pictures you posted look worse then the real game (except the explosion). Look at the detail of Sam, he looks worse then a random pedestrian on the street in GTA 4.

And the Forza 3 pictures are from the ingame photomode. I don't consider it a bullshot if I can produce images of that quality myself with the click of a button in the full game. It still looks brilliant in-game motion.

Well, when you don't scale them they show how those models really look when rendered closer. I wonder how long does this ingame photomode render that picture. You do know that in-game you have to render one picture in 0.01 seconds... oh sorry on consoles its more like one picture in 0.03 seconds. When you give 1 sec for rendering for example you get superb results already.

Give it one day and you can get graphics like this(Actually you would run out of mem on consoles, but anyway.)

(Thats not real, btw.)


There are pictures of Sam closer to the camera at normal resolution and he looks WAY better.

The Forza 3 photomode is what it sounds like. You pause the game, press photomode or w/e and you can fly around the area as a camera taking pictures and changing various effects (motion blur, viewing angel, dof, shutter speed, sephia, you name it) 

When you take the picture it renders with with the post processing effects chosen almost instantly. These "bullshots" are exactly the same resolution (720p), ingame car model, texture resolution, game lighting etc. The only difference is higher quality post processing. 8/16X AA, Depth of Field, Motion blur etc etc.

These aren't PC still renders like many developers use. (retracted) was posting 2560P (retracted) PSP pictures on the net not long ago.

Resized to fit screen^

Now that is a bullshot.. If anything this is (retracted) showroom model renders.



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Mvp4eVa on 21 September 2009

AC:2

AC:1

b:2

Alan Wake

ME:2

ME:1

Condemned:2

Condemned:1

Lost Planet 2

Lost planet 1

Fight night round 4

Fight night round 3

It looks like 3rd and 1st party devs are always squeezing more juice out the 360 and it seems there's more where it came from.



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Sweep on 21 September 2009
Hisiru said:
selnor said:
Hisiru said:
PullusPardus said:


that is one weird aiming ...
these look far far better than the old "Long hair and beard" demo ubisoft shown before.

Look the details (both screens are in-game):

The last pic you posted here. Look at the brick paving floor. That is insane!

Exactly! Everything is perfect, every detail is well done, and if we compare with Splinter Cell: Double Agent (360 version) we will not see something like that, we can clearly see a big improvement here in the graphics, details, etc.

Nice splinter Cell conviction PC VERSION screenshots...



arsenicazure on 21 September 2009

Its interesting how much effort has been put into Forza3 considering that GT5 is just around the corner( no pun intended :).. competition breeds innovation.. as long as the ps3 and 360 try edging each other out, us gamers are onto some visual treats.. 360 is about as good as the ps3, uncharted non withstanding..

Compare kameo to sonic unleashed.. im guessing we still have another 2 yrs before they reach the graphical ceiling on this gen



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darthdevidem01 on 21 September 2009

Selnor this is nothing shocking

ALL consoles come leaps & bounds forward after the initial games

PS2 (see initial games compared to God Of War), GC (initial games compared to the later ones), Xbox 1 (initial games compared to Ninja Gaiden) & so on

nothing shocking......but nice post nevertheless



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Bitmap Frogs on 21 September 2009
darthdevidem01 said:

Selnor this is nothing shocking

ALL consoles come leaps & bounds forward after the initial games

PS2 (see initial games compared to God Of War), GC (initial games compared to the later ones), Xbox 1 (initial games compared to Ninja Gaiden) & so on

nothing shocking......but nice post nevertheless

 

It might not be shocking to you, but it's worth dispelling the myth that's so prevalent around these places that only one console has "room to grow" and the rest are stuck with 2007 image quality.

Of course any sane poster knows that as more games are developed the further the engines are refined and thus the image quality leaps with every new iteration. But sane posters aren't exactly aplenty around here, so there's certain merit to the thread.





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AlkamistStar on 21 September 2009
Bitmap Frogs said:
darthdevidem01 said:

Selnor this is nothing shocking

ALL consoles come leaps & bounds forward after the initial games

PS2 (see initial games compared to God Of War), GC (initial games compared to the later ones), Xbox 1 (initial games compared to Ninja Gaiden) & so on

nothing shocking......but nice post nevertheless

 

It might not be shocking to you, but it's worth dispelling the myth that's so prevalent around these places that only one console has "room to grow" and the rest are stuck with 2007 image quality.

Of course any sane poster knows that as more games are developed the further the engines are refined and thus the image quality leaps with every new iteration. But sane posters aren't exactly aplenty around here, so there's certain merit to the thread.


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darthdevidem01 on 21 September 2009
Bitmap Frogs said:
darthdevidem01 said:

Selnor this is nothing shocking

ALL consoles come leaps & bounds forward after the initial games

PS2 (see initial games compared to God Of War), GC (initial games compared to the later ones), Xbox 1 (initial games compared to Ninja Gaiden) & so on

nothing shocking......but nice post nevertheless

 

It might not be shocking to you, but it's worth dispelling the myth that's so prevalent around these places that only one console has "room to grow" and the rest are stuck with 2007 image quality.

Of course any sane poster knows that as more games are developed the further the engines are refined and thus the image quality leaps with every new iteration. But sane posters aren't exactly aplenty around here, so there's certain merit to the thread.

true true

the thread is good for such people



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iHuGi on 21 September 2009

360 has great power and graphics will even get better!

Joining this the online and 360 is for ME the best Console this GEN!

I still like Ps3 though.



mrstickball on 21 September 2009

I think there are better comparisons out there. FM2 is a mid 07 release. The Xbox 360 was released in 2005.

You'd be better of comparing 05-06 games to current ones.



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