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Dodece said:
The problem with these statements is dedicated hoaxers are very adept at their diabolical art. They know enough about their subject to sound authentic, and yet are sly enough to evade detection. Unlike your standard blow hard or a meager troll. They play the game at an entirely different level, and sometimes the complexity would baffle the most dedicated scrounger. Often sending the investigator off chasing phantoms. Further more once their shenanigans are finally exposed they have moved on leaving a wake of destruction, as the house they built tumbles down on the true believers.

Unfortunately you might be doing exactly what the hoaxer wants your acting as their agent. One hoaxer can generate so much detritus that their lies have a way of colliding with each other from multiple sources resulting in what appears to be supporting evidence. For example the same guy can start similar stories on a handful of different sites at slightly different times.

The posters on those sites take the material the hoaxer has laid on them to other sites. Where even more people collect reinforce and then spread to even more sites. Eventually five accounts blossom in hundreds if not thousands of accounts. The carriers often embellishing the tale as their trusted source. The result is one very witty hoaxer has built an entire rumor mill out of five posts with no real validation of their account.

Yes its a very simple for a lie to take on a life of its own. Like a virus it mutates, and infects every poster it touches. Eventually when enough people read it enough times sometimes it can even become accepted truth. The worst of these hoaxes rely on actual distrust of the reputable sources. Even if Sony wanted desperately to put down these rumors. Their record when it comes to honesty is pathetic. Nobody will believe them since they have lied so often in the past. Meanwhile the hoaxer gets a clean slate with whatever new persona they adopt.

The worst thing you can do is ask the question is this guy legit. Unless they are utterly incompetent a hoaxer is near impossible to expose, and that is the only way to answer your question. Fellow posters will label the source as a maybe. Well have you ever told a child maybe. To a child that is a weak yes. In adults it is a suppressed yes. So in their minds the original poster gains a small margin of credibility, and that is what the house of cards is built upon.

Now if your seriously interested in the subject citing a poster on another forum. Which by the way is a way to defer responsibility, and add credibility to yourself. Well thats not the way to do it. The best way is to post the basics of the post into a rephrased question. Say do you think this kind of price reduction would be conceivable.

There are ways to uncloak hoaxers, but that is an art in and of itself. Involving numerous tactics, and a great degree of psychological understanding of their pathological psychosis. They often do it for the thrill, the sense of power, or even for a degree of revenge. In that sense they can be manipulated against themselves. However instead of devoting yourself to doing such things its better not to spread rumors, and more importantly to not dwell too deeply on them. When you focus on something or spread it. You become intricately involved. That just makes you an agent, and not an interested observer.

Your asking a question nobody can answer, and perhaps giving a con artist a free boost. Which accomplishes nothing, and worse might obscure the truth. Hoaxers will spread dozens of lies praying to hit one right. Once that happens they move to the big leagues. Becoming almost like a prophet. They have no reputation to protect, and can get a lot of mileage out of a good guess.

 So what is your point?



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Could this be what's happening? 

October 12th:

Worldwide announcement of the new slimline PS3 containing smaller 40Gb HDD, No EE, no memory slots, only 2 USB slots.  The new PS3 will come with a send away card for a free copy of Spiderman 3 on Blu-Ray or in some regions, may come with the Blu-Ray disc included in the packaging.  The cost will be the following:

US - $399, EU - 400 Euros, UK - £299, AUS - $699

In the US, the current 60Gb PS3 will eventually be sold out, but may be reduced to $449 to sell out or may include a free game.  The 80Gb model will come down to $499 once the 60Gb models are extinct.  They will include a free HDMI cable and a choice of games ranging from Motorstorm to Resistance to Heavenly Sword.

In the UK, the current 60Gb PS3 (with 2 free games and extra controller) will be reduced in price to £399 and may include a further free game, probably Heavenly Sword.  There will be a new PES 2008 PS3 bundle as well.  This will probably come in at £349 and will include the 40Gb model, the game and an extra controller. 



Prediction (June 12th 2017)

Permanent pricedrop for both PS4 Slim and PS4 Pro in October.

PS4 Slim $249 (October 2017)

PS4 Pro $349 (October 2017)

No PS2 capatibility, why even own one then?



Dodece said:
The problem with these statements is dedicated hoaxers are very adept at their diabolical art. They know enough about their subject to sound authentic, and yet are sly enough to evade detection. Unlike your standard blow hard or a meager troll. They play the game at an entirely different level, and sometimes the complexity would baffle the most dedicated scrounger. Often sending the investigator off chasing phantoms. Further more once their shenanigans are finally exposed they have moved on leaving a wake of destruction, as the house they built tumbles down on the true believers.

Unfortunately you might be doing exactly what the hoaxer wants your acting as their agent. One hoaxer can generate so much detritus that their lies have a way of colliding with each other from multiple sources resulting in what appears to be supporting evidence. For example the same guy can start similar stories on a handful of different sites at slightly different times.

The posters on those sites take the material the hoaxer has laid on them to other sites. Where even more people collect reinforce and then spread to even more sites. Eventually five accounts blossom in hundreds if not thousands of accounts. The carriers often embellishing the tale as their trusted source. The result is one very witty hoaxer has built an entire rumor mill out of five posts with no real validation of their account.

Yes its a very simple for a lie to take on a life of its own. Like a virus it mutates, and infects every poster it touches. Eventually when enough people read it enough times sometimes it can even become accepted truth. The worst of these hoaxes rely on actual distrust of the reputable sources. Even if Sony wanted desperately to put down these rumors. Their record when it comes to honesty is pathetic. Nobody will believe them since they have lied so often in the past. Meanwhile the hoaxer gets a clean slate with whatever new persona they adopt.

The worst thing you can do is ask the question is this guy legit. Unless they are utterly incompetent a hoaxer is near impossible to expose, and that is the only way to answer your question. Fellow posters will label the source as a maybe. Well have you ever told a child maybe. To a child that is a weak yes. In adults it is a suppressed yes. So in their minds the original poster gains a small margin of credibility, and that is what the house of cards is built upon.

Now if your seriously interested in the subject citing a poster on another forum. Which by the way is a way to defer responsibility, and add credibility to yourself. Well thats not the way to do it. The best way is to post the basics of the post into a rephrased question. Say do you think this kind of price reduction would be conceivable.

There are ways to uncloak hoaxers, but that is an art in and of itself. Involving numerous tactics, and a great degree of psychological understanding of their pathological psychosis. They often do it for the thrill, the sense of power, or even for a degree of revenge. In that sense they can be manipulated against themselves. However instead of devoting yourself to doing such things its better not to spread rumors, and more importantly to not dwell too deeply on them. When you focus on something or spread it. You become intricately involved. That just makes you an agent, and not an interested observer.

Your asking a question nobody can answer, and perhaps giving a con artist a free boost. Which accomplishes nothing, and worse might obscure the truth. Hoaxers will spread dozens of lies praying to hit one right. Once that happens they move to the big leagues. Becoming almost like a prophet. They have no reputation to protect, and can get a lot of mileage out of a good guess.

Why did anyone bother reading all that? (I just wanted to quote it again)

 

Sony Viral Marketer on damage control? 



http://gaming.engadget.com/2007/10/02/sonys-399-ps3-confirmed-by-best-buy/

Looks like best buy are getting their first stock in on 28th Oct. 



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Saiyar said:

http://gaming.engadget.com/2007/10/02/sonys-399-ps3-confirmed-by-best-buy/

Looks like best buy are getting their first stock in on 28th Oct.


Fits in with the 30th October launch with Spiderman 3.

Prediction (June 12th 2017)

Permanent pricedrop for both PS4 Slim and PS4 Pro in October.

PS4 Slim $249 (October 2017)

PS4 Pro $349 (October 2017)

I KNEW IT!!! In the sense of it was going to be the downgraded version which rumors were spreading around a few days ago. No this guy isn't telling any jokes.

Still what pisses me off, if this turns out to be a matter of truth, is that they're basically NOT dropping the price, they just give you less for less money and to me the most important things, backward compatibility and I appreciate having card readers in my console. But basically.. you're paying just about the same as you would pay for a 60GB with more extras *eeks*.

Seriously, to me, this version they can stuff it.

I wonder how this will look like in Japan :=/.



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Saiyar said:

http://gaming.engadget.com/2007/10/02/sonys-399-ps3-confirmed-by-best-buy/

Looks like best buy are getting their first stock in on 28th Oct.


So... it really happens. Boost will be significantly stronger than before. It will double (or even triple) current sale patterns. +60k a week in US alone sounds extremely solid. WW it would secure 500k a month if supported by new European offer. Very good timing.

Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, Ratchet and Clank, Uncharted, Haze, Unreal III, CoD4, Assassins Creed, GT5 Prologu, Orange Box, Kane and Lynch, Army of Two and some crap for "casual" Americans - WWE, NFS, Guitar Hero, Lego, Simpsons etc... fair enough.

 

 

 

 

 

 



How many more versions will we get? I've heard from a seller in Japan, Japan will get the Silver and White color PS3 by the end of the year, no news about any price drops or change of hardware. But I assume as soon as the new colors arrive there might be some changes as well.



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*~Onna76~* said:
How many more versions will we get?

Is it really matters for people who already bought the system? Personally I couldn't care less. It's an answer for peoples calling. The truth is most people simply don't want to pay $499 for gaming machine. $399 is much more friendly. For me the most important feature of current sku's is WiFi. Definitely it should stay as a standard. BC, card readers, extra USB ports are useful but definitely not essential.