I'm wondering if Microsoft will be making a gen 2 360 console like the PS2 did... slimmer design, cooler, not as power hungry...  I don't know what the install base was when the Playstation went from the Brick to the Slimline but I'm guessing it was probably a lot more than the current 360 install base.  What's the chance of a Gen 2 slimmer design and if so, when you suspect they would do it?

Would you trust them to make something that small to be of quality ? imo the lack the experience in hardware to pull it of the right way.

I just hope for an $100 price cut next spring to match Sony's price cut :D

I thought you were asking how long until they release the next xbox!

I just don't think that it's gonna happen.  The slimmer design will only happen when the die size of chips gets a lot smaller, i.e in 4-5 years. The sliim design that you are talking about will make the whole thing hotter b/c the whole thing will have the same insides but a more compact design. In fact, I would think that the compactness of the current design that is causing some big-time heating problems.

Microsoft seems to be taking the constantly update it approach. HDMI, 65 nm, etc. I expect there might be a cosmetic change at some point but, until they need something to revive sales numbers I don't see it happening.

Once they get more of the X360 to a 65nm process, I think they'll goto a newer design.

MS knows that there are massive heat problems with certain areas of the X360. Why not re-design it (and kill the power brick too), and make it alot cheaper to make?

IMO, we could/should see a re-design for next years Christmas.

 You do realize, of course, that Microsoft doesn't make the 360?  They contracted design and development to one of those new-fangled contract electronics manufacturing company thingamajigs.  I suspect that they won't give as much leash next time around...

Because a more compact space means that more units of heat will be spread out over a smaller volume of air inside the console, which means that a slimmer redesign would make the whole thing hotter.  RROD epidemic all over again.

why not.

But I thought the "falcon" was supposed to be a sort of "Xbox360 II"