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"Fable 2
Mass Effect
Lost Odyssey
Blue Dragon
Star Ocean
Infinite Undiscovery
Last Remnant
Tales of Vesperia (timed exclusive)
Magna Carta II
Mass Effect II
Fallout 3 (timed exclusive DLC)
Sacred II
Eternal Sonata
Oblivion
FF XIII
Risen
Mars
Alpha Protocol
Dragon Age
Too Human
Cross Edge Dash

I think this is a pretty decent list of RPGs for one console"

Some of them aren't exclusives and are also available on pc and playstation 3. Multiplatforms don't give merit to a platform because you can play them on other platforms.



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Jereel Hunter said:
Onyxmeth said:

Nice article. Section off four different platforms as being inconsequential to the argument, just leave the two lowest selling platforms, and have a pissing contest between them like usual. Reasoning why the DS isn't under consideration? It would defeat every console and handheld so brutally that it wouldn't have made an engaging article. Really this wasn't an article made for fans of RPG games, because those fans would want to know where the best RPGs are, regardless of platform. It was made for those that get kicks over "PS3 vs. 360: Who wins this round?" articles.

Or perhaps because consoles and handhelds are always considered seperately. Just like PC games are only rolled into a discussion to rain on people's parades.

What's your reasoning for seperating them though? This isn't a sales discussion. We're talking about which has the best RPGs, which in my mind is open to any platform that has RPGs to begin with. Obviously handhelds getting prime attention from key RPG publishers like Square-Enix and Atlus has been felt throughout the console world, so yes I'd say they count just plenty. Want to know why a console doesn't have Dragon Quest IX like usual, because a handheld has it. Want to know why the latest Shin Megami Tensei game isn't on a console like usual, because a handheld has it. Want to know why people say Square's output is lousy? It's because they're only playing their console games, not the handheld ones.

Consider them seperately though. It's obvious why that has to be. It isn't to benefit the handhelds, I assure you that.



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Jereel Hunter said:
Valkyria00 said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:
JRPGs and WRPGs: 360

SRPGs: PS3

Err what? Disgaea 3 and Valkyria Chronicles?Well then I guess your right on console for VC along since I dont even think Wii or 360 have one. (Not counting PS2 Wii port of NIS game)

Though I think adding the SRPG is a little defensive.

OT:The 360 easily has the best RPG this generation since  it does have a good variety of both WRPG and JRPG. 2nd could be clost between PS3/Wii since PS3 has WRPG but barley any JRPG and Wii has JRPG but no WRPG. Bethesda game is in the works though.

Anyways its hard to argue otherwise. Yes 360 has the best lineup for RPG....lucky bastards.

A little defensive? that's all? That's like saying:

FPS and TPS: 360

 

NDFPS: PS3

 

(NDFPS = Netherlands Developed First Person Shooter)

How is it at all like that, and how is it any way defensive?

It's exactly what they said in the article. 360 has a large selection of western and japanese RPGs and the PS3 has a few good strategy RPGs.



Onyxmeth said:
Jereel Hunter said:
Onyxmeth said:

Nice article. Section off four different platforms as being inconsequential to the argument, just leave the two lowest selling platforms, and have a pissing contest between them like usual. Reasoning why the DS isn't under consideration? It would defeat every console and handheld so brutally that it wouldn't have made an engaging article. Really this wasn't an article made for fans of RPG games, because those fans would want to know where the best RPGs are, regardless of platform. It was made for those that get kicks over "PS3 vs. 360: Who wins this round?" articles.

Or perhaps because consoles and handhelds are always considered seperately. Just like PC games are only rolled into a discussion to rain on people's parades.

What's your reasoning for seperating them though? This isn't a sales discussion. We're talking about which has the best RPGs, which in my mind is open to any platform that has RPGs to begin with. Obviously handhelds getting prime attention from key RPG publishers like Square-Enix and Atlus has been felt throughout the console world, so yes I'd say they count just plenty. Want to know why a console doesn't have Dragon Quest IX like usual, because a handheld has it. Want to know why the latest Shin Megami Tensei game isn't on a console like usual, because a handheld has it. Want to know why people say Square's output is lousy? It's because they're only playing their console games, not the handheld ones.

Consider them seperately though. It's obvious why that has to be. It isn't to benefit the handhelds, I assure you that.

ok, here's what seperates handhelds from consoles(I'm sure there's more):

1) Audience - While there is a great deal of overlap, the benefits of consoles to many, is te ability to relax in your living room and play on a big screen. I could play games exclusively on my PC, but a console has the big screen and the ability to play from the couch.

2) Technical capabilities - console games obviously have much greater budgets/graphics. They're worlds apart, though handheld games can look pretty fantastic on those little screens.Also, due to the small discs, a handheld game would have to be much smaller. (though I'm sure they can scale relatively due to reduced technical requirements)

3) Controls - handhelds generally have more limited controls - for instance no sticks, because they're designed to be flat.

In short, yes portables have better RPGs than consoles, because the small screens and limited controls don't really impact them. Meanwhile, consoles would have the advantage in the shooter spectrum. Each side has areas where they would completely steamroll the other, it's not even close. But rather than always mention such vastly different peices of equipment together, they are slotted into different categories. The same reason these discussions are generally PS3vs360. Wii has tons of fun/"blue ocean" games, PS3/360 have graphical powerhouse games with intense movie sequences. Why slot everything into one category? If we did, then we can stop talking about the Wii too, because the DS sales have buried it.



It does have the most RPGs as of now...

But with the rubbish sales of recent JRPG games, that support will dwindle towards PS3/Wii.



                            

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--OkeyDokey-- said:
Jereel Hunter said:
Valkyria00 said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:
JRPGs and WRPGs: 360

SRPGs: PS3

Err what? Disgaea 3 and Valkyria Chronicles?Well then I guess your right on console for VC along since I dont even think Wii or 360 have one. (Not counting PS2 Wii port of NIS game)

Though I think adding the SRPG is a little defensive.

OT:The 360 easily has the best RPG this generation since  it does have a good variety of both WRPG and JRPG. 2nd could be clost between PS3/Wii since PS3 has WRPG but barley any JRPG and Wii has JRPG but no WRPG. Bethesda game is in the works though.

Anyways its hard to argue otherwise. Yes 360 has the best lineup for RPG....lucky bastards.

A little defensive? that's all? That's like saying:

FPS and TPS: 360

NDFPS: PS3

(NDFPS = Netherlands Developed First Person Shooter)

How is it at all like that, and how is it any way defensive?

It's exactly what they said in the article. 360 has a large selection of western and japanese RPGs and the PS3 has a few good strategy RPGs.

It's defensive because it's targetting a very specific niche to award a win. It's like talking to someone about football, and they say something like, "but the XXX(insert team here that can't get it done) are #1 in the league at 3rd down conversions of 8 yards or more!" And you tell them to talk to you when they make it past even 1 game in the playoffs. Same deal.



Jereel Hunter said:

ok, here's what seperates handhelds from consoles(I'm sure there's more):

1) Audience - While there is a great deal of overlap, the benefits of consoles to many, is te ability to relax in your living room and play on a big screen. I could play games exclusively on my PC, but a console has the big screen and the ability to play from the couch.

2) Technical capabilities - console games obviously have much greater budgets/graphics. They're worlds apart, though handheld games can look pretty fantastic on those little screens.Also, due to the small discs, a handheld game would have to be much smaller. (though I'm sure they can scale relatively due to reduced technical requirements)

3) Controls - handhelds generally have more limited controls - for instance no sticks, because they're designed to be flat.

In short, yes portables have better RPGs than consoles, because the small screens and limited controls don't really impact them. Meanwhile, consoles would have the advantage in the shooter spectrum. Each side has areas where they would completely steamroll the other, it's not even close. But rather than always mention such vastly different peices of equipment together, they are slotted into different categories. The same reason these discussions are generally PS3vs360. Wii has tons of fun/"blue ocean" games, PS3/360 have graphical powerhouse games with intense movie sequences. Why slot everything into one category? If we did, then we can stop talking about the Wii too, because the DS sales have buried it.

You're not saying anything differently from me. You're saying that the portables are so chock full of RPGs that it gives them an unfair advantage and it's no longer fun to put them in comparison, so you chop them out and put only the platforms that are performing relatively close to eachother other in the genre, which are the two HD consoles. I get it.

However, looking at the article itself, it's obvious where it's intentions are, which are exactly what I originally said. This is nothing more than a PS3 vs. 360 pissing contest, which they seem to have an ongoing series of articles dedicated to called Grudge Match. So really it wouldn't have mattered how similar or relevant any other platform would be to an argument. It's going to be 360 vs. PS3 the same reason why so many other articles are, it draws in the most hits, and adding additional players dilutes the article's ability to pull in that internet fanbase that loves the 360/PS3 wars. If this were really an article made for RPG fans, it would feature as many platforms as possible. This is for the console wars fan and nothing more.



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--OkeyDokey-- said:
Jereel Hunter said:
Valkyria00 said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:
JRPGs and WRPGs: 360

SRPGs: PS3

Err what? Disgaea 3 and Valkyria Chronicles?Well then I guess your right on console for VC along since I dont even think Wii or 360 have one. (Not counting PS2 Wii port of NIS game)

Though I think adding the SRPG is a little defensive.

OT:The 360 easily has the best RPG this generation since  it does have a good variety of both WRPG and JRPG. 2nd could be clost between PS3/Wii since PS3 has WRPG but barley any JRPG and Wii has JRPG but no WRPG. Bethesda game is in the works though.

Anyways its hard to argue otherwise. Yes 360 has the best lineup for RPG....lucky bastards.

A little defensive? that's all? That's like saying:

FPS and TPS: 360

 

NDFPS: PS3

 

(NDFPS = Netherlands Developed First Person Shooter)

How is it at all like that, and how is it any way defensive?

It's exactly what they said in the article. 360 has a large selection of western and japanese RPGs and the PS3 has a few good strategy RPGs.

 


How many SRPG's does the PS3 have?



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bullshit S.T.A.G.E., IGN did not say X360 is the King of RPGs because they only compared the 360 with the PS3. What about the PC, DS, PSP, Wii, etc...?!



I like it...360 has the best shooters, and the best rpgs...that's pretty much gaming!



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