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thekitchensink said:
ssj12 said:
thekitchensink said:
Zlejedi said:
This has potential to be serious dent in freedom of speech and promoting more politicall correctness.


Not really--all it does is make sure that a critic actually backs up his statements.  That said, if it cleans up their mouths on the way, I'm all for it.

It is actually a little bit of both. It makes critics back up statements but it can have a negative effect on freedom of speech too.

This law made it so I cannot post on my Twitter, "I just saw Movie X, it sucked." I have to give a massive explaination which with Twitter's text limit probably wouldn't allow someone to properly do.

How is this law going to differentiate between a general person, a person being paid off by a company for their statement, and a critic? it can't.

 

 


What you say makes sense, but it seems to only apply to people who may have a conflict of interest.

"The guidelines, expected to be released later this summer, would clarify that the FTC could pursue and penalize bloggers, as well as the companies which compensate them, for any false claims or failure to disclose conflicts of interest, according to The Associate Press."

So, for example, you would be penalized if you neglected to disclose that a big rival movie studio paid you to say 'Movie X sucked', or that your opinion is colored by a general dislike of studio x.

As long as there's no reason to believe you have a conflict of interest, you're in the clear.

but why does the government want to step on your opinion?



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ssj12 said:
thekitchensink said:
Zlejedi said:
This has potential to be serious dent in freedom of speech and promoting more politicall correctness.


Not really--all it does is make sure that a critic actually backs up his statements.  That said, if it cleans up their mouths on the way, I'm all for it.

It is actually a little bit of both. It makes critics back up statements but it can have a negative effect on freedom of speech too.

This law made it so I cannot post on my Twitter, "I just saw Movie X, it sucked." I have to give a massive explaination which with Twitter's text limit probably wouldn't allow someone to properly do.

How is this law going to differentiate between a general person, a person being paid off by a company for their statement, and a critic? it can't.

I don't think they're trying to make every person justify their internet opinion or face penalty, I think they're just trying to make a framework whereby if a person consistantly raves about the quality of Universal's films, and is later found to have an undisclosed arrangement with Universal, that person can be punished.

Penalties can be easily avoided by either not having a conflict of interest, or by openly disclosing your conflict of interest (which responsible bloggers already do). There's no need to alter your opinion or keep quiet about it, even if you're a paid employee of Universal or some marketing agency.



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The only bit I don't like is the bit where it states 'if you have a general dislike of...'.

That seems to be saying you're not allowed to be biased. Which is stupid.
This should only apply where people have a conflict of interest, as in they have some fiscal (or material) gain from putting out their opinion.



"Journalists who work for established news organizations are often not allowed to accept payments or gifts from marketers. Such organizations often have stringent policies in order to reduce conflicts of interest and ensure and maintain credibility with their respective audiences."

Anyone think this is actually true for the mostly-amateur gaming press?



DKII said:
"Journalists who work for established news organizations are often not allowed to accept payments or gifts from marketers. Such organizations often have stringent policies in order to reduce conflicts of interest and ensure and maintain credibility with their respective audiences."

Anyone think this is actually true for the mostly-amateur gaming press?

Nope. We don't but a lot of the other smaller press sites, and probably larger ones too, will do anything to get hits so they will market a game and receive gifts for giving good word for games even if the game is horrible.  In turn the marketing will increase hits and gain them a fanbase plus gain a small cash flow. I've seen many small press sites come and go because of this.

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thekitchensink said:
Zlejedi said:
This has potential to be serious dent in freedom of speech and promoting more politicall correctness.


Not really--all it does is make sure that a critic actually backs up his statements.  That said, if it cleans up their mouths on the way, I'm all for it.

How many small bloggers will not be afraid to write bad review about game x if they know they can be prosecuted for it and in best case they will have to do few hours of paperwork.

It will be much safer to never criticize anyone too much.



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I sense a lawsuit coming on the grounds of freedom of speech violations. Actually I hope the lawsuits come fast and heavy. BTW who actually goes to blogs to get news? most bloggers are political hacks looking to push readerships and agendas.



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Zlejedi said:
thekitchensink said:
Zlejedi said:
This has potential to be serious dent in freedom of speech and promoting more politicall correctness.


Not really--all it does is make sure that a critic actually backs up his statements.  That said, if it cleans up their mouths on the way, I'm all for it.

How many small bloggers will not be afraid to write bad review about game x if they know they can be prosecuted for it and in best case they will have to do few hours of paperwork.

It will be much safer to never criticize anyone too much.

You're blowing this out of proportion. They're not going to be flinging lawsuits around challenging every petty remark on the internet, as that would be such a ridiculous waste of time as to make the law unenforcable.

Nobody is going to prosecute unless:

1. There is a provable conflict of interest and

2. The blogger fails to openly disclose it.

There no violation of freedom of speech, because people are still free to say whatever they like. But if they speak about a subject which involves their livelihood, they have to add a little bit of information which they might otherwise prefer to be left unsaid.

Is it a violation of freedom of speech when political ads are forced to disclose who paid for the ad?



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famousringo said:
Zlejedi said:
thekitchensink said:
Zlejedi said:
This has potential to be serious dent in freedom of speech and promoting more politicall correctness.


Not really--all it does is make sure that a critic actually backs up his statements.  That said, if it cleans up their mouths on the way, I'm all for it.

How many small bloggers will not be afraid to write bad review about game x if they know they can be prosecuted for it and in best case they will have to do few hours of paperwork.

It will be much safer to never criticize anyone too much.

You're blowing this out of proportion. They're not going to be flinging lawsuits around challenging every petty remark on the internet, as that would be such a ridiculous waste of time as to make the law unenforcable.

Nobody is going to prosecute unless:

1. There is a provable conflict of interest and

2. The blogger fails to openly disclose it.

There no violation of freedom of speech, because people are still free to say whatever they like. But if they speak about a subject which involves their livelihood, they have to add a little bit of information which they might otherwise prefer to be left unsaid.

Is it a violation of freedom of speech when political ads are forced to disclose who paid for the ad?

Yes, it is a violation of freedom of speech. I don't believe anybody has the right to tell you that you must tell people who is paying for what you are saying. It is the consumers responsibility to research the data. However, if you are in the public spotlight, you should have the scruples to disclose who is paying you to say what.  



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famousringo said:
Zlejedi said:
thekitchensink said:
Zlejedi said:
This has potential to be serious dent in freedom of speech and promoting more politicall correctness.


Not really--all it does is make sure that a critic actually backs up his statements.  That said, if it cleans up their mouths on the way, I'm all for it.

How many small bloggers will not be afraid to write bad review about game x if they know they can be prosecuted for it and in best case they will have to do few hours of paperwork.

It will be much safer to never criticize anyone too much.

You're blowing this out of proportion. They're not going to be flinging lawsuits around challenging every petty remark on the internet, as that would be such a ridiculous waste of time as to make the law unenforcable.

Nobody is going to prosecute unless:

1. There is a provable conflict of interest and

2. The blogger fails to openly disclose it.

There no violation of freedom of speech, because people are still free to say whatever they like. But if they speak about a subject which involves their livelihood, they have to add a little bit of information which they might otherwise prefer to be left unsaid.

Is it a violation of freedom of speech when political ads are forced to disclose who paid for the ad?

Of course there will be lawsuits it's only a matter of finding company which will be asshole enough to try to hunt all negative opinions about it's product (activision comes as first possible candidate to the mind)

And for most cases it will be same autocensorship as ESRB introduced to games - where authors are afraid of putting risky content in fear of receiving AO.



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