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S.T.A.G.E. on 22 June 2009
Tallgeese101 said:
I doubt 360 piracy is as bad as people say (at least in western markets). Seeds/leeches on 360 games pale in comparison to PC games.

PSP, DS and PC are the ones being (have been?) killed by piracy.

Tis true.

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Slimebeast on 22 June 2009
jonnhytesta said:
look at the psp and the pc markets.=dead.


Exactly.

It may not show right now, but I'm perfectly sure that an un-hacked PS3 is helping software sales in the long run.

And I hope no consoles get hacked in the next gen.



Kasz216 on 22 June 2009

The PC market is fine.

The PSP market just looks dead, because if it wasn't for piracy very few people would actually buy the system.

I'm the only person i know in real life with a PSP that isn't hacked.

What piracy predominantly would effect is used game sales if it affected anything.

People want to pay a fair price for products.  It's in most peoples consiousness from their socilization.  If people are pirating they don't consider the price fair.



ChichiriMuyo on 22 June 2009
Slimebeast said:
jonnhytesta said:
look at the psp and the pc markets.=dead.


Exactly.

It may not show right now, but I'm perfectly sure that an un-hacked PS3 is helping software sales in the long run.

And I hope no consoles get hacked in the next gen.

Me too, just so eveyone can finally learn that piracy has nothing to with software sales.  People who pirate either wouldn't have bought the game in the first place or they would have bought used.  The only people who will make more money if piracy comes to an end are Gamestop and its ilk.



You do not have the right to never be offended.

Xoj on 22 June 2009
eb30577 said:
The only problem with your reasoning is that there is a portion of the PS3s sold that are only used a blueray players. So these people would never buy games. Because if you truly want an HD movie experience you need blueray and since xbox360 only does 1080p for games it doesn't do fuck all for DVDs which are only 480p.

360 doens't do 1080p for games.

and no ps3 it's not mainly bought for blu ray.

games like SF 4, RE 5 wouldn't have sold more on the ps3 if it was.



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Slimebeast on 22 June 2009
ChichiriMuyo said:
Slimebeast said:
jonnhytesta said:
look at the psp and the pc markets.=dead.


Exactly.

It may not show right now, but I'm perfectly sure that an un-hacked PS3 is helping software sales in the long run.

And I hope no consoles get hacked in the next gen.

Me too, just so eveyone can finally learn that piracy has nothing to with software sales.  People who pirate either wouldn't have bought the game in the first place or they would have bought used.  The only people who will make more money if piracy comes to an end are Gamestop and its ilk.


But that's a mith.

I am a pirate myself, and all my friends are pirates, so I no how pirates think and act.

I havent bothered to mod my X360 yet, therefor i buy some X360 games. For PC it's another story (i only buy some PC games for CD keys).

So if for some reason Id mod my X360, I would hardly buy any games anymore.

This is the sad truth. Piracy severly hurts game sales. Not much to debate IMO.



MontanaHatchet on 22 June 2009
S.T.A.G.E. said:
BMaker11 said:
MGS4 sold more than MGS3, when the PS2 had over 100M users, and the PS3 was at like 12-14M (forget exactly)

/thread

Um...MGS3 came out during a time when the PS2 started losing value. MGS4 came out around the time PS3 was low in value and helped gave it true value. This is in the beginning of the PS3's lifespan. It was expected. The value of a systems games in the last couple years of its life cycle, relies upon dedicated gamers and late purchasers of the system. the bulk of the buyers, most likely will have fallen out of the loop. PS2 had a lot of casual users who fell out of the loop after a couple of years.

 

Well that's simply not true. MGS3 came out in 2004, possibly the strongest year that the PS2 had. What really killed it was coming out at the same time as Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas and Halo 2.



 

 

Aj_habfan on 22 June 2009
bugrimmar said:
you guys aren't seeing what i put in the OP.

the 360 is outselling the ps3 on almost every multiplatform game, despite the 360 being heavily pirated.

doesn't that mean that piracy isn't hurting the 360 at all?

also, something like mgs4 didn't see a substantial increase in sales from the ps2 versions despite the ps3 not having pirated games.

take a look at those examples before posting about pc and psp markets.

You're taking the situation and MAKING it fit your conclusion.

You're completely ignoring the much more obvious explanation, which is 360 having an 8 million lead in install base.



Aj_habfan on 22 June 2009
Slimebeast said:
ChichiriMuyo said:
Slimebeast said:
jonnhytesta said:
look at the psp and the pc markets.=dead.


Exactly.

It may not show right now, but I'm perfectly sure that an un-hacked PS3 is helping software sales in the long run.

And I hope no consoles get hacked in the next gen.

Me too, just so eveyone can finally learn that piracy has nothing to with software sales.  People who pirate either wouldn't have bought the game in the first place or they would have bought used.  The only people who will make more money if piracy comes to an end are Gamestop and its ilk.


But that's a mith.

I am a pirate myself, and all my friends are pirates, so I no how pirates think and act.

I havent bothered to mod my X360 yet, therefor i buy some X360 games. For PC it's another story (i only buy some PC games for CD keys).

So if for some reason Id mod my X360, I would hardly buy any games anymore.

This is the sad truth. Piracy severly hurts game sales. Not much to debate IMO.

Thank you. I'm sick of some of these people talking like they know the mind of a pirate.



Kasz216 on 22 June 2009
Aj_habfan said:
Slimebeast said:
ChichiriMuyo said:
Slimebeast said:
jonnhytesta said:
look at the psp and the pc markets.=dead.


Exactly.

It may not show right now, but I'm perfectly sure that an un-hacked PS3 is helping software sales in the long run.

And I hope no consoles get hacked in the next gen.

Me too, just so eveyone can finally learn that piracy has nothing to with software sales.  People who pirate either wouldn't have bought the game in the first place or they would have bought used.  The only people who will make more money if piracy comes to an end are Gamestop and its ilk.


But that's a mith.

I am a pirate myself, and all my friends are pirates, so I no how pirates think and act.

I havent bothered to mod my X360 yet, therefor i buy some X360 games. For PC it's another story (i only buy some PC games for CD keys).

So if for some reason Id mod my X360, I would hardly buy any games anymore.

This is the sad truth. Piracy severly hurts game sales. Not much to debate IMO.

Thank you. I'm sick of some of these people talking like they know the mind of a pirate.

Hey it's just what the research on the matter shows... and current economic theory.  Because some people are somewhat antisocial i don't know what to tell you.

Of course he's also from a country that charges something like 100 bucks before conversion for a game.