Trut me ,they will. Even tho the Conduit only had a fraction of the production costs of Infamous, if it sells like it, its a FLOOOP ...But for the ps3 its great sales. Double standarts.

I think The Conduit may be accessible enough to the mass market (and small core Wii base) to do quite well. Thanks to it's T rating. Let's face it, a lot of parents get Wiis for the kids or (kids for their parents) and eventually they'll want a FPS and since CoD is M, that only - note ONLY - leaves the Conduit. It could easily survive off the preteen set for years.

In addition there's still a group like myself that are PC FPS fans and have never migrated to console FPS because of the inferior controls. I know myself and a couple of my peers will be getting The Conduit because it's the first real, fully fleshed out FPS on consoles with controls that mirror the mouse controls we grew up with in precision.

However I have grave fears for the success of the Grinder and Glaldiator because of the intense violence and M rating they'll likely suffer the same fate as HoTD:O and Madworld.

A Mario Paintball FPS would sell millions though.

It's not about Wii hate, it's about the whole problem on Nintendo Platform on Hardcore gaming. 3rd parties are just fine for developing their creative and casual trends on Wii but not hardcore titles. Look at the 3rd parties on both DS and Wii, they are just miserable and pathetic except casual titlez. Even the most hardcore and best selling title like GTA can't save Nintendo platform, Nintendo is just fine with Game Party(bottom 10 metacritic game) and Jillian Michaels' Fitness Ultimatum 2009(Read Amazon Review ).

Such a cherry picked article haha. Looks over all the "hardcore" games that have sold well on it but make sure to point out the ones that don't. What I find even funnier, is when a game does poorly on the Wii or DS it is a big deal but when one flops on the PS3 or 360 they just kinda look it over. Even the PSP, which is full of flops on a daily basis, doesn't even get this kind of attention.

It's almost like they are waiting for the Wii to prove something that it has already proven. Hanging on to that last little shred that for some odd reason makes them feel like they are right. I mean I know people hate Malstrom, but it's things like this that make him look like a genius.

Sure, some of these supposed big core Wii games didn't take off. It happens... trust me. But there were a lot of core 360 and PS3 games released in the same time that had piss poor sales as well. Wii may not have a huge fanbase that goes for the non-Nintendo core games as say PS360, but sales have shown the crowd is there and expanding.

Where the hell are the Mariana Islands, and when did the natives there decide their biased opinion was important?

As for core games, I'm not sure what you refer to by Capcom's offerings last gen. RE1 remake, RE4, RE0, I'd say those weren't disappointing. Monster Hunter 3 is en route for the Wii, and the RE4 Wii version is hailed as the best version by many.

As for MMV, sure they might be crying, but Activision doesn't seem to think its worth the effort to deliver games to the PS3. I have little knowledge of MMV, but I sure know who Activision is. Different devs have different perspectives. If 3rd parties want a  hit "core" game on the Wii, make a game that lasts for more than 30 hours, with solid gameplay /controls, and isn't a cartoon.

the problem is that for you to justify your statments you cant put them directly.

gta (which is a casual game btw ) and very good one.Sold already over 500k units.Its good,its really good.

. So for you to make sense you have to ADD comments like> Given the Ds playerbase, given the name of the brand and so forth.That doesnt matters.The game sold well and it printed money.Thats all that matters. That provess you can you can sell on the console.That proofs you can make money. COD on the DS also proved that.And thats why this is irrelevant to say it should sell like GTA4.No, because its not the heavily advertised huge budget game.Its a good portable game and has such sales, which are great noticing how many times cheaper it was to produce.

Me too.

i know, it games flop(and they do often) in other consoles, they shush and stay quiet, nothing happened, its the fault of the game.if a single hardcore game doesnt sells millions on the wii or ds is time to scream. But if they do fine, suddenly they arent hardcore for some magic reason.

I will be very direct,  and this will shock some naysayers.Some multiplat games, hardcore games like Bully(the closest to a GTA on a wii), sold around as much as the HD consoles. Wrestling games sell similarly on ALL PLATFORMS. As long as the content is kept similar, wii sales are similar.

Flops? Let's compare. At least there are hardcore 3rd parties on PSP , DS only got something like Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games, Cooking Mama,  MySims, Imagine: Babyz, Imagine: Fashion Designer, Hannah Montana etc.

1		Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories		Rockstar Games	227	N/A	5.73m	06th Apr 08
2		Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories		Rockstar Games	176	N/A	3.44m	30th Nov 08
3		Monster Hunter Freedom Unite		Capcom	1,003	N/A	3.26m	19th Jun 09
4		Monster Hunter Freedom 2		Capcom	213	N/A	2.39m	20th Jan 09
5		Daxter		Sony Computer Entertainment	121	N/A	2.31m	06th Jun 09
6		Need for Speed: Most Wanted		Electronic Arts	41	N/A	2.12m	27th Aug 07
7		Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII Read the review		Square Enix	849	8.5	2.05m	26th Jan 08
8		Tekken: Dark Resurrection Read the review		Namco Bandai	187	8.9	1.93m	17th Feb 09
9		God of War: Chains of Olympus Read the review		Sony Computer Entertainment	412	7.9	1.75m	18th Jul 08
10		Star Wars Battlefront II		LucasArts	53	N/A	1.63m	31st Oct 08

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1		Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories		Rockstar Games	227	N/A	5.73m	06th Apr 08
2		Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories		Rockstar Games	176	N/A	3.44m	30th Nov 08
3		Monster Hunter Freedom Unite		Capcom	1,003	N/A	3.26m	19th Jun 09
4		Monster Hunter Freedom 2		Capcom	213	N/A	2.39m	20th Jan 09
5		Daxter		Sony Computer Entertainment	121	N/A	2.31m	06th Jun 09
6		Need for Speed: Most Wanted		Electronic Arts	41	N/A	2.12m	27th Aug 07
7		Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII Read the review		Square Enix	849	8.5	2.05m	26th Jan 08
8		Tekken: Dark Resurrection Read the review		Namco Bandai	187	8.9	1.93m	17th Feb 09
9		God of War: Chains of Olympus Read the review		Sony Computer Entertainment	412	7.9	1.75m	18th Jul 08
10		Star Wars Battlefront II		LucasArts	53	N/A	1.63m	31st Oct 08
11		Ratchet & Clank: Size Matters		Sony Computer Entertainment	117	N/A	1.57m	07th Nov 08
12		Midnight Club 3: DUB Edition		Rockstar Games	55	N/A	1.54m	24th Dec 08

I dont really think i need to post any sort of "Nintendo Wii defence". These threads and articles are so common that this thread was destroyed in the very first page of its existance.