PATRIOT7ME said:
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gogo power rangers!~~~
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard-definition_television

PATRIOT7ME said:
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gogo power rangers!~~~
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard-definition_television

PATRIOT7ME said:
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By definition it is not a higher resolution it's just progressive scan and how it or any SD standard looks on a HDTV depends on the TV.
hsrob said:
By definition it is not a higher resolution it's just progressive scan and how it or any SD standard looks on a HDTV depends on the TV. |
Actually, 480p is twice the amount of pixels of 480i. It really is a higher resolution. 480i never looks good on an LCD screen, never.
Chrizum said:
Actually, 480p is twice the amount of pixels of 480i. It really is a higher resolution. 480i never looks good on an LCD screen, never. |
no that's wrong, the resolution is the same, what changes the is bandwidth required to display a 480p image, infact 480p requires double the bandwidth than 480i, the reason for 480i was that for free to air TV it required less bandwidth and like wise for composite cables cables which meant this technique of displaying the same data was cheaper, it also lost a little quality but it was worth the compromose back in the day.
480p is slightly better than 480i, but nothing beats true 720p/1080p HD.
Also the coments of 480i images not looking good on LCD has todo more with the LCD tv it's self rather than the 480i signal it's self. just remember that all LCD tv screens only accept progressive signals, it's the decoders and in essence the tv graphics chip which handles the de-interlacing of 480i images into 480p, so a cheap tv will of course have a cheap graphics chip and thus the de-interlacing would be crap, a good LCD could do a better job, but of course just feeding the LCD a 480p signal will bypass all this....but then of course you face an issue of the LCD upscaling the image to it's native resolution and this again boils down to the quality of the LCD tv.
So the moral of the story is....you get a good LCD tv so that the image is some what maintained when compared to tube Tv's, or you simply feed your LCD HD tv a HD souce and avoid all this, in this particular case being a bit cheap on the tv won't have to much affect on the image.
Chrizum said:
Actually, 480p is twice the amount of pixels of 480i. It really is a higher resolution. 480i never looks good on an LCD screen, never. |
I understand that it's a superior standard but i didn't know that it could be described as a higher resolution. It's my understanding that according to convention resolution is determined by the total number of pixels that can be rendered in a scene not pixels per frame (where 480p is twice 480i). Semantics aside, 480p is absolutely better.
Admittedly 480i doesn't look good on LCD TVs but 480p can look pretty crap too, depending on the TV. I don't game on an LCD for this reason.


| Ail said: Yes because those screenshots totally hold a candle to Uncharted 2, God of War 3 or KZ2 screenshots... |
Exactly, they do indeed when you look at them on a SD TV. On a HD TV they don't hold a candle.
jake_the_fake1 said:
no that's wrong, the resolution is the same, what changes the is bandwidth required to display a 480p image, infact 480p requires double the bandwidth than 480i, the reason for 480i was that for free to air TV it required less bandwidth and like wise for composite cables cables which meant this technique of displaying the same data was cheaper, it also lost a little quality but it was worth the compromose back in the day. 480p is slightly better than 480i, but nothing beats true 720p/1080p HD. Also the coments of 480i images not looking good on LCD has todo more with the LCD tv it's self rather than the 480i signal it's self. just remember that all LCD tv screens only accept progressive signals, it's the decoders and in essence the tv graphics chip which handles the de-interlacing of 480i images into 480p, so a cheap tv will of course have a cheap graphics chip and thus the de-interlacing would be crap, a good LCD could do a better job, but of course just feeding the LCD a 480p signal will bypass all this....but then of course you face an issue of the LCD upscaling the image to it's native resolution and this again boils down to the quality of the LCD tv. So the moral of the story is....you get a good LCD tv so that the image is some what maintained when compared to tube Tv's, or you simply feed your LCD HD tv a HD souce and avoid all this, in this particular case being a bit cheap on the tv won't have to much affect on the image. |
Wow, you kids sure like to feed your bias.
There are three different basic types of NTSC resolutions. There's SD, ED, and HD. An SDTV cannot display an ED resolution. It can't. Period.
480i is the "same resolution" as 480p, in the fact that it requires 480 lines to properly display the image. However, ALL "i" resolutions are precisely half the actual number of lines being displayed. Rather than DISPLAYING 480 lines, 480i displays 240 lines. Then it jumps and displays the other 240 lines. It "interlaces" them together, essentially.
As a result, 480i is an SD resolution. But 480p is not.
If you don't believe me, go Wiki it.
I'll even help.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interlacing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/480i
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/480p
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thetonestarr said:
Wow, you kids sure like to feed your bias.
There are three different basic types of NTSC resolutions. There's SD, ED, and HD. An SDTV cannot display an ED resolution. It can't. Period. 480i is the "same resolution" as 480p, in the fact that it requires 480 lines to properly display the image. However, ALL "i" resolutions are precisely half the actual number of lines being displayed. Rather than DISPLAYING 480 lines, 480i displays 240 lines. Then it jumps and displays the other 240 lines. It "interlaces" them together, essentially. As a result, 480i is an SD resolution. But 480p is not.
If you don't believe me, go Wiki it. I'll even help.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interlacing |
480i and 480p still have the same base resolution, the are mainly 2 differences, the first is that the image is either interlaced or progressive, and the second is the bandwidth used/required.
480p uses double the bandwidth of 480i so for broadcasting reasons the cheapest one to use would be 480i but at the cost slight image degridation, while the 480p have a better image it does also require double the bandwidth to transmit so each have their practical advantages and situations where it's best used...but the one thing that remains consistant is the actual resolution.
How 'bout you quit talking out of your ass and read the facts? I even linked them for you, so it's not like you don't have it easily accessable.
By the very basis of interlace vs progressive scan, all progressive scan resolutions are visually twice as good as their interlaced counterparts.
They are not considered the same resolution. They do NOT have the same "base resolution". They have the same initial image, but the resolution itself is VERY different. If they were the same, all TVs capable of displaying a 480i picture would be capable of displaying a 480p image. Pure pixel-count isn't the only part of resolution.
And, actually, as I read more, I've learned that 480p usually has 80 more horizontal pixels (720x480 as opposed to 640x480. NTSC vs VGA resolutions).
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I doubt either game will sell over 1m in lifetime, both games would be easily better received on 360 or ps3, but people who have wii aren't your average gamers. Just look at madworld it's been out 13 weeks allready and it has sold barely over 200,000 copies even though it looks like a fun game and got good reviews. 3rd party games just don't sell as well as first parties like mario, zelda, wii-fit, etc