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ZenfoldorVGI on 18 June 2009
Slimebeast said:
I am looking forward far more to Dragon Age personally than ME2, but it's very apparent that ME2 will sell more and is far more hyped.

Dragon Age will sell well but has 0 chance against ME2 in sales.

I too am looking forward to DA more, but I think that ME2 could sell more. It is going to be a big game on the 360, very hyped, and have a huge launch. Dragon Age is already far more underground. Plus we can't track pirating or Downloadable stuff, which is where DA will do well.



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shio on 18 June 2009
Squilliam said:
ME2 would probably have the wonderful combination of lower cost (reused assets) and probably is the most likely of the three to turn a profit since its not a new I.P. or an expensive MMO.

But would the lower development cost of ME2 cover the likely higher sales from Dragon Age, plus the fact that Dragon Age will be much more expansions-friendly?

ZenfoldorVGI said:
badgenome said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
The last Star Wars MMO flopped badly.

I am totally bummed about the next KOTOR being an MMO, but come on - Bioware is not SOE (those fuckheads).

His implication was that with the Star Wars IP attached, it had a much higher chance of success, compared to the Mass Effect name. I say that the Star Wars name has been tarnished forever in the MMO realm.

Both games have nothing to do with each other. Not that many people played SWG, and I think most of those who did would know where to put the blame on. The market has increased ten-fold since then anyway.



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ZenfoldorVGI on 18 June 2009
shio said:
Squilliam said:
ME2 would probably have the wonderful combination of lower cost (reused assets) and probably is the most likely of the three to turn a profit since its not a new I.P. or an expensive MMO.

But would the lower development cost of ME2 cover the likely higher sales from Dragon Age, plus the fact that Dragon Age will be much more expansions-friendly?

ZenfoldorVGI said:
badgenome said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
The last Star Wars MMO flopped badly.

I am totally bummed about the next KOTOR being an MMO, but come on - Bioware is not SOE (those fuckheads).

His implication was that with the Star Wars IP attached, it had a much higher chance of success, compared to the Mass Effect name. I say that the Star Wars name has been tarnished forever in the MMO realm.

Both games have nothing to do with each other. Not that many people played SWG, and I think most of those who did would know where to put the blame on. The market has increased ten-fold since then anyway.

You wrote:

2- (Mass Effect 2)Doesn't have the brand pull that Star Wars has.

I think the performance of the last Star Wars MMO is very relevant when refuting that statement. Particularly, the part where the last Star Wars MMO sucked, and every Star Wars fan hated it.

I think the (KoToR) IP is a much bigger draw than simply "Star Wars"



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I don't need your console war.

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Nightmare24 on 18 June 2009

Yes it is the smallest prject but ME2 will sell better than Dragon Age.



Squilliam on 18 June 2009

Mass Effect 2 sold 2M on the Xbox 360 + Whatever on the PC. With improvements to the game most 'great' RPGs on the Xbox 360 sell 3M copies. Thats something noone should sneeze at, and then you have the PC sales to consider as well. Dragon Age is a new I.P so theres no assurance its going to sell much more than 3M over the 3 platforms.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 18 June 2009
ZenfoldorVGI said:
shio said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:

Star Wars Galaxies didn't flop and it still is making money, though Sony's mistakes definitely took away alot of the game's potential.

MMOs have as much risk as anywhere else, doesn't matter that much. the thing is that those who have a solid appeal will instantly get decent userbase size in it's launch. The new SW MMO has that. Hell, even if Bioware messes up the launch they can still recover, like Funcom did with Age of Conan.

MMO market is increasing rapidly. Non-WoW subcriptions MMOs increased 30% last year, and F2P MMOs are growing even more than that.

MMOs aside, I don't see how Mass Effect will sell as much as Dragon Age. There's just too much going for Dragon Age. And E3 awards are meaningless, they don't even reward the game itself but it's presentation/demos, and what matters is the full product. For example, Mass Effect 1 won ALOT of E3 awards, yet it won nowhere near the amount of RPG GOTY awards that The Witcher did in 2007.

ME 1 suffered a lot from releasing on the Xbox 360, and having terrible technical glitches. Were it released on PC initially and the 360 later, it would have won many, many awards. The PC version is fantastic.

My friend, ME sold shit on PC. I am glad it was on the 360, because, quite frankly, that game would've gone nowhere if it was on PC alone. I don't even know if Gamestop sells PC games anymore. All the hype is on the 360 system.



shio on 18 June 2009
S.T.A.G.E. said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:

ME 1 suffered a lot from releasing on the Xbox 360, and having terrible technical glitches. Were it released on PC initially and the 360 later, it would have won many, many awards. The PC version is fantastic.

My friend, ME sold shit on PC. I am glad it was on the 360, because, quite frankly, that game would've gone nowhere if it was on PC alone. I don't even know if Gamestop sells PC games anymore. All the hype is on the 360 system.

Link the source of the PC sales of ME1, because it seems you know exactly how much it sold. If ME1 was PC-only, I assure you the game would be nothing like it was, and it would be a much more PC-centric experience (and better I might add).



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Onyxmeth on 18 June 2009

Out of the three, it's pretty obvious Mass Effect 2 is probably the least expendable project they have. If they had to, they would likely scrap Dragon Age and Star Wars: The Old Republic before they do ME2.

1. ME2 comes in with smaller costs and the added benefit of having a road map to a third iteration in the series.

2. Dragon Age is unproven. It is coming in as an upstream title, a new IP, and the last two titles EA has marketed in that category, Dead Space and Mirror's Edge, both underperformed.

3. Big name MMOs flop all the time. A lot of the time they don't even get made. Big brand means nothing in this category. MMOs are simply high risk, and if any project is likely to go, it's this one.



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International Douche on 18 June 2009

It's prolly already being produced on a contractual\subsidised basis to some degree so all youe points are moot op.



JaggedSac on 18 June 2009

Do we have NWN or ME numbers to compare?