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If pc had Japanese developed games on it that were released in a timely fashion (no I'm not talking about a crap port of Dmc4 available 6 months down the road) then I would be all over it. As it stands this is not the case, and since pc is predominantly western developed Fps games and RTS I could care less.



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Mendicate Bias said:
shio said:

Most PC gamers DON'T upgrade, so your point is moot. There is almost no need to upgrade PCs anymore because of what I've stated before. For example, my brother's 6 years old PC (bought early 2003) can still play most of today's PC games, and this is a PC from before the multi-core era.

And again, if we are comparing strictly gaming then there is no need to bring up "MSN messages popping up" because that is not a gaming related, but the fact that you can use MSN, AIM and several other IM's while you're playing PC games but not console games means that PC is that flexible. With Steam you can even use web-browse INSIDE the games!

PC gaming is becoming more accessible, while console gaming is becoming more complicated... what is there to not understand? I'm not saying whether PC is easier or not, that is irrelevant.

And you clearly know NOTHING about PC games, because when you're downloading a game from Steam it actually installs it AT THE SAME TIME. Right after the game is downloaded you can already play it, there is no additional installs!!!! And you usually don't need a CD key for digital copies... /facepalm

Many PC games also have local multiplayer, probably more than on any console. And PC also has a vastly bigger LAN support than all consoles combined.

 

Wait so you can play split screen on your computer, thats amazing I wish the rest of us noobs knew how to play split screen on our computers.

And actually you can be signed on to msn and playing games on the 360 at the same time. Not that I ever am since its ridiculously annoying getting messages while in an online match.

Also I know you keep saying that you can buy a pc for very cheap that can easily play crysis. I'm assuming you mean building your own pc, which the massive majority of the general public wouldn't even know where to start. However if you can find me a pc at retail for $400 that can play crysis on med-high settings then I will concede the point. I honestly don't know much about pc costs right now so you might easily be able to do this, I'm just curious.

The main problem with OEM systems is that every spec tends to be more than enough for games... except for the VGA card.

Naturally, cheap systems with integrated video go right out.

Slightly less cheap systems with very cheap discrete video cards (well under $100 retail bought separate) aren't much better.

Unfortunately, most OEM systems with decent video cards (9800GT or HD4850 for example) will charge the buyer an unnecessary premium since it will likely be marketed as a "gaming" rig. You will not find these for $500 or even $600, barring inventory clearing sales.

Best bet for the low tech savvy buyer is get a low cost rig with a decent processor and memory and buy the best VGA card your budget permits. Learn how to install a PCI card and install/update drivers. If you can't do that, then stick with console gaming.

 

And no, this won't be a $400 or even a $500 game slaying box.



vic_viper said:
If pc had Japanese developed games on it that were released in a timely fashion (no I'm not talking about a crap port of Dmc4 available 6 months down the road) then I would be all over it. As it stands this is not the case, and since pc is predominantly western developed Fps games and RTS I could care less.

I thought the port of DMC4 was excellent, but I agree with the time span from the console release.  Same with the upcoming RE5 (it comes out in September I believe) port.  Overall, Capcom has stepped up their game on the pc though.



I agree with the OP, in both ways. Although these days I play more on PC than in consoles (fucking economy), I grew up playing the PC and consoles (SNES, N64, PSOne and now a GC and a DS), and I'm glad I don't have issues with any of them lol



the words above were backed by NUCLEAR WEAPONS!

Yes, I was being abit Dramatic with the DMC4 port, I just wish they used the time to add maybe a new stage or two. Hopefully Capcom will be on time with LP2 for pc, or atleast close to the 360 release date.



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Squilliam said:
My HDD had a spasm last night. Seriously was a complete PITA to have to back up 1500GB of data whilst I wait for a new one to arrive. A non gaming PC tends to be simple, cheap, low power useage, easy to replace and manage. Gaming just complicates your PC and most people don't want the hassle for a fully fledged 'gaming rig'.

I'm increasingly under the notion that it's better to keep your workstation and gaming rigs separate. And yes, this effectively doubles the price of your PC use, but I still see it as being better to keep your productivity and entertainment boxes separate.

With a workstation/productivity system, you just want it to work smoothly and reliably; period. All the little tricks and mods done to gaming rigs to make them squeeze out that much more performance almost always result in reduced reliability and serviceability. Things will break faster on overclocked and modified components, but that's hardly a concern when parts are regularly being upgraded anyway.

So, it pretty much boils down to cost, as with many things.

And if all you need is a terminal for e-mail, word processing and the like; even simpler. Stick with consoles for games.



Simulacrum said:

I really was suprised finding many gamers that only play with consoles..

Heck I have been playing with Pc and consoles all my life..

So why get pc if you ain't gonna play with it?

I would have missed age of empires,bioshock,Gears of war, css and many others that can't be played with my consoles..

 

Bioshock, Gears of War, and a version of Counterstrike are all on consoles.



greenmedic88 said:
Squilliam said:
My HDD had a spasm last night. Seriously was a complete PITA to have to back up 1500GB of data whilst I wait for a new one to arrive. A non gaming PC tends to be simple, cheap, low power useage, easy to replace and manage. Gaming just complicates your PC and most people don't want the hassle for a fully fledged 'gaming rig'.

I'm increasingly under the notion that it's better to keep your workstation and gaming rigs separate. And yes, this effectively doubles the price of your PC use, but I still see it as being better to keep your productivity and entertainment boxes separate.

With a workstation/productivity system, you just want it to work smoothly and reliably; period. All the little tricks and mods done to gaming rigs to make them squeeze out that much more performance almost always result in reduced reliability and serviceability. Things will break faster on overclocked and modified components, but that's hardly a concern when parts are regularly being upgraded anyway.

So, it pretty much boils down to cost, as with many things.

And if all you need is a terminal for e-mail, word processing and the like; even simpler. Stick with consoles for games.

Thats pretty much how I feel.



Tease.

I got tired of spending more time on upgrading, installing and patching games than playing them. Buying all 3 Wii, Xbox360 and PS3 was a lot cheaper than upgrading my PC every 6 month for "a" new game. For the most part I can just put the disk in and start playing no more waiting.



 

sapient said:
I got tired of spending more time on upgrading, installing and patching games than playing them. Buying all 3 Wii, Xbox360 and PS3 was a lot cheaper than upgrading my PC every 6 month for "a" new game. For the most part I can just put the disk in and start playing no more waiting.

upgrading and patching are no longer problems of modern PC gaming. New Gaming PCs without upgrades can keep playing new games much more than consoles can. And patching nowadays are streamlined and you no longer need to hunt for patches due to services like Steam (most games themselves now have an automatic way to upgrade even).

Installing I don't even call a problem because that's something I believe most PC gamers would do it just to help on the loading times. Consoles now even have installs.

 

I think the best thing about PC gaming today is that you don't even need to put a disk to play! All you need is to click on your game's icon to play it, no disk.