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voty2000 said:
JEDE3 said:
I don't see anywhere that he says "I'll be deeply involved"

"I'll be working more deeply on the project then a normal producer," adding, It's a completely different kind of action than what has appeared in the series so far."

Only Deeply is in quotes in the headline.


Selective word choice there. First off you are leaving out the word "MORE" which really is the key word here. Just because he will be  MORE involved than a normal producer doesnt mean he will be DEEPLY involved. If a normal producer has 0 involvment then Kojima can have 1 involvment and his wording would still be correct.



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Cactus said:
JEDE3 said:
Cactus said:
Vetteman94 said:
I kinda doubted that anything with the name "Metal Gear Solid" on it would not have Kojima pretty involved. That said, I wonder how well he will pull of the hack-n-slash style of game, at least that is what the game sounds like it is going to be. Is this his first attempt into that genre?

Kojima confirmed sometime during E3 that this will still be a stealth game, just changed to suit Raiden.


"It's a completely different kind of action than what has appeared in the series so far"

from the article above.

 

1:26-1:32

http://e3.gamespot.com/video/6211582/

 

Watch from 1:26-1:32

 


Ididn't say it wouldn't be a stealth game. I just said it won't be the same as normal MGS'. It could be like Tenchu and these statements would be correct. "Stealth" "action not like other MGS games" - describes tench too.



I wouldn't expect anyother way, he want's the MGS series to stay great.



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JEDE3 said:
voty2000 said:
JEDE3 said:
I don't see anywhere that he says "I'll be deeply involved"

"I'll be working more deeply on the project then a normal producer," adding, It's a completely different kind of action than what has appeared in the series so far."

Only Deeply is in quotes in the headline.


Selective word choice there. First off you are leaving out the word "MORE" which really is the key word here. Just because he will be  MORE involved than a normal producer doesnt mean he will be DEEPLY involved. If a normal producer has 0 involvment then Kojima can have 1 involvment and his wording would still be correct.

All I was pointing out is that nowwhere in the article does it say "I'll be deeply involved", only deeply is in qoutes.  The more part doesn't matter because you tried to spin the article by saying "I'll be deeply involved" is not in the article  because that is not what was stated or implied.  All that was implied was that for a producer he will be more deeply involved than normal.   Also, you have no clue what that means for his involvement.  Pretty much your just trying to downplay his role in creating the game.  You get another game from Kojima so just be excited.



Lol... I'm the one spinning it? Why are you twisting the meaning of words for it to benifit you?



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This game is the most ironic thing of all time.

If it was announced PS3 exsclusive we would see an absolute endless number of threads about this would be "TEH BEZT GAME EVA!!!" but simply because its multi-plat people complain.

Get over it.

Also I don't get why everyone calls it a hack and slash. It will be more action oriented but the fact the trailer says Sneak In at the end makes me believe they aren't abandoning all the stealth elements.



BenVTrigger said:
This game is the most ironic thing of all time.

If it was announced PS3 exsclusive we would see an absolute endless number of threads about this would be "TEH BEZT GAME EVA!!!" but simply because its multi-plat people complain.

Get over it.

Also I don't get why everyone calls it a hack and slash. It will be more action oriented but the fact the trailer says Sneak In at the end makes me believe they aren't abandoning all the stealth elements.


Biggest bunch of bullshit ive heard. all i got out of you was "Wah they are so right! MGS IS taking a different route and it IS being developed by unproven team and there IS every reason to be skeptical about this game that it might not be the same which made the series great... but I don't care I'll try to just discredit them by calling them fanboys. Even though I have no evidence to support my claims at all! That will shut them up and make me feel better about myself"



JEDE3 said:
BenVTrigger said:
This game is the most ironic thing of all time.

If it was announced PS3 exsclusive we would see an absolute endless number of threads about this would be "TEH BEZT GAME EVA!!!" but simply because its multi-plat people complain.

Get over it.

Also I don't get why everyone calls it a hack and slash. It will be more action oriented but the fact the trailer says Sneak In at the end makes me believe they aren't abandoning all the stealth elements.


Biggest bunch of bullshit ive heard. all i got out of you was "Wah they are so right! MGS IS taking a different route and it IS being developed by unproven team and there IS every reason to be skeptical about this game that it might not be the same which made the series great... but I don't care I'll try to just discredit them by calling them fanboys. Even though I have no evidence to support my claims at all! That will shut them up and make me feel better about myself"


umm....where did I use the word fanboy at all?

And whose the one getting all defenseive and throwing out name calling and cussing.

I'm simply stating its a new game in a fantastic series with a great pedigree and is still having alot of oversight / involvement by Kojima and I am fully confident that if this was PS3 exclusive it would be much more highly touted.  Look at K2 using your "unproven team and every reason to be skeptical"  K1 sucked and the sequal was hyped to hell.  Why?  Because it was a good game just like Rising will be but unfortunatley K2 had the advantage of being PS3 exclusive which always equals more hype on the interwebs.



No name calling in my post. And i swear all the fucking time... so that is no indication fo anything.

And that KZ2 arguement is also bullshit. We knew a lot more about that game then we do know about MGSR.



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lol exactly the only thing people know is its a multi-plat MGS and their complaining. Where are the 360 owners complaining about it? Why is it only PS3 owners? I'm not saying people are being fanboys but it is an absolute certainty that the situation would in fact be different if it were exclusive. Why trash on a game you know nothing about? All I'm saying is wait until you actually see something about it before all the negativity especially with a series as fantastic as MGS.