L4D is meant to be played on a PC, the 360 version is just a shitty port. I couldn't care less about this. Some genres are meant for PC and PC ONLY, FPS being one of the 3 majors.

FPS, RTS, MMO

cough :CRYTEK: cough

I love Valve for the record... and I own all the Half Life games and expansions... even that shitty Blue Shift... that I bought for the high res graphics -_-

This is the same company that is releasing an expansion pack as a sequel right?

This is the same company that has given it's users more content than many firms have sold to their users

Reading this thread, I've seen a lot of "They are crap devs" and being responded by "Have you played Valve games?"

They aren't crap devs, because their games are great, but for them to completely shun out the PS3 because "they don't feel like sweating bullets" or "it's not worth it" is BS.

Some people have overexaggerated and said "Maybe they don't want to switch from PC code to the 'uber hard, technically difficult, hard to develop for (oh, 2007, I hear you calling), obstacle, different architecture, blah blah blah Cell' that is the PS3". Honestly, I don't want to call them crap, but their reasoning behind not developing for the PS3 IS crap. I've seen nightsurge say that their sentiments are actually shared by MANY multiplatform developers. To that I ask, who?

Square? EA? Tecmo? Ubisoft? Rockstar? Hell...D3 (Dark Sector)? Even the devs that make crappy games and are from legit "crap devs" can put games on the PS3 without complaining about it. All the great games that have come out for the PS3 this year without a single "it's too hard to code for" should show that "it's too hard" IS in fact a sign of laziness if someone wants to still use that excuse. If it "wasn't worth it", even booboo games like Blood of the Sand and Afro Samurai wouldn't have been released on it, because it was too hard to "make game experiences". But no, Capcom with SFIV and RE5, Konami with MGS4 and continued support with MGS: Rising, Ubisoft with Assassin's Creed 2, etc. have shown that "too hard to develop for" is a thing of the past. To that, I say:

Valve, you are lazy developers

"I didn’t come into this business in the 90s because of some technical fetish"

Hmmm, I'd say creating your own graphics engine is pretty technical, and so is setting up a whole system like steam, I mean if they didn't get into the business because a tech fetish, then why not simply use a licensed graphics engine form epic, or ID, hell why not also use xbox live instead of creating your own system, clearly they're full of shit.

I reckon it's damage control, they'll come off looking stupid if they admitted to making a mistake by not developing for the PS3, so they came up with this story and of course the PS3 is an easy scape goat.

Calling the developers "lazy" is an ignorant way of saying they insulted your console.

Simply put, if Valve thought that the PS3 was the best console to develop their games on, they would do it. They don't have a mysterious dislike of Sony, they just don't see developing games for their console as beneficial to Valve.

you just completely missed my point...never said anything about a bad game...they just reuse same engine...that's all....and cs:s hitbox...

i never said any of their games were bad...

i only said they are lazy in sense they overuse their engine....their engine has been out for a while now...most developers would have made a new engine by now...they've been using the same engine for about 5 years now...

UE2 to UE3 took 4 years...UE4 has been in development since only a year after UE3 came out...you see...that is not being lazy....not only the development of UE4...they are doing a revised engine of the 3rd one....so if UE4 comes out b4 a new valve engine...that's 3 engines(one of them being a revised version) that have come out in the time source engine has been out...

2 crysis engine came out during the time source engine has been out...1 is not officially out yet...but there have been some tech demos

i'm sure valve is working on a new engine right now...but they're just milking their source engine...