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MontanaHatchet said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:
Paragraphs, Montana, paragraphs!

Usually I would, but writing it all in one paragraph makes it look like a really long, crazy rant. That's the style I'm going for.

Well, you certainly accomplished that...

@ Rei

That list means nothing. I guarantee you last year it would have been Final Fantasy XIII on top followed by Wii Music. This is best of show we're talking about, not most controversial.



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Rei said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Rei said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Wait, did Rei really just claim that gamers don't believe Uncharted 2 is the game of the show because it doesn't show up the most on a scan of twitter posts and blogs and other internet musings? Am I missing something here?


    Uh oh, I dont think that either 1up or Buzzstudy provide an objective overview on what was the best game of the show. Buzzstudy is closer to reality, however, and that's why I posted it.

It's closer to reality how? The people from 1UP and Buzzstudy probably had hands-on with the games and got to play them. I'd say that's a good opportunity to form an opinion. And you claimed that "gamers" thought differently. But these were really just scans of various places on the internet. And whose to say they thought the games were good? You will find that Natal has the most buzz out of anything in that list, but for all we know, it could just be that 90% of the links are from people who think it looks awful. Let me quote the article itself:

"Oh, and bear this in mind: buzz is buzz. It doesn't differentiate between "good" and "bad", just how often something is discussed. After all, any publicity is good publicity, right?"


   What are you trying to prove here? I said that neither source is objective, have you missed that part?

   What we have here is opinion of five "professional" editors vs. compilation of various internet articles gathered by Buzzstudy. Neither is objective. But out of the two, Buzzstudy is closer to reality.

Okay, but I will quote you. "It seems like gamers have a different opinion." If you don't like me sticking to that quote, you should never have said it. The main difference between the two is that the editors actually gave opinions, either thinking something is good or bad. These random collections of articles could have a variety of opinions, and only show how often something was mentioned. If Buzzstudy scans a number of sites and figures out which part of E3 got the most positive reactions (even by total number), then I'll be impressed.



 

 

MontanaHatchet said:
Rei said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Rei said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Wait, did Rei really just claim that gamers don't believe Uncharted 2 is the game of the show because it doesn't show up the most on a scan of twitter posts and blogs and other internet musings? Am I missing something here?


    Uh oh, I dont think that either 1up or Buzzstudy provide an objective overview on what was the best game of the show. Buzzstudy is closer to reality, however, and that's why I posted it.

It's closer to reality how? The people from 1UP and Buzzstudy probably had hands-on with the games and got to play them. I'd say that's a good opportunity to form an opinion. And you claimed that "gamers" thought differently. But these were really just scans of various places on the internet. And whose to say they thought the games were good? You will find that Natal has the most buzz out of anything in that list, but for all we know, it could just be that 90% of the links are from people who think it looks awful. Let me quote the article itself:

"Oh, and bear this in mind: buzz is buzz. It doesn't differentiate between "good" and "bad", just how often something is discussed. After all, any publicity is good publicity, right?"


   What are you trying to prove here? I said that neither source is objective, have you missed that part?

   What we have here is opinion of five "professional" editors vs. compilation of various internet articles gathered by Buzzstudy. Neither is objective. But out of the two, Buzzstudy is closer to reality.

Okay, but I will quote you. "It seems like gamers have a different opinion." If you don't like me sticking to that quote, you should never have said it. The main difference between the two is that the editors actually gave opinions, either thinking something is good or bad. These random collections of articles could have a variety of opinions, and only show how often something was mentioned. If Buzzstudy scans a number of sites and figures out which part of E3 got the most positive reactions (even by total number), then I'll be impressed.

   Do you really want to continue discussing this meaningless topic? Duh ..

   Sure Buzzstudy counts all kinds of opinions. But let's say there is one hundred (I am being conservative here) of blogs and articles on God of War 3 E3 showing. Let's say 90% of them are negative (that is impossible, but whatever) but 10 are positive. That already makes it 10 people vs 5 people (editors of 1up). Obviously, the majority rules, so I say Buzzstudy is closer to being objective.

  



Uncharted 2 deserved it
Project Natal is good too

GOW3 IMO is the best of the show...



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BladeOfGod said:
Uncharted better than GOW3??? What the hell is wong with you people? Where all these Uncharted fanboyos are coming from???

They also thought Bayonetta was better than GoW 3 in the action category. I agree. GoW was directly based upon DMC, which the person who is masterminding Bayonetta created. I think Bayonetta will be great, and so will GoWIII, but Bayonetta is my best of show.

 

Best of show: Bayonetta

Best racing: Forza 3

Best RPG: FFXIII

Best fighting: Tekken

Best action: Bayonetta

Best stealth: Splinter Cell

Best survival horror: Alan Wake

Best platformer: SMG2

Best trailer: Castlevania

Best MMO: FFXIV

Best adventure: The Last Guardian

Best portable: Bowser's Insider Story

Best shooter: MW2

Best download: Shadow Complex

Best multiplayer: NSMB:Wii

Mine

I thought you hated God of War...

Before this E3 I did.

I also want to mention that I enjoyed the game Uncharted, but it is over-rated, imo.

Finally, this article mentions the "Forza 3 verses GT" argument in a positive light for Forza 3. I thought people overlooked that.

So, they made it more violent, improved the graphics, let you control a cyclops and use a battering ram, and you suddenly like it? Ah well, I'm not objecting.

And GT5 wasn't eligible because it wasn't playable at E3- notice how it wasn't even nominated for best racing game.



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Rei said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Rei said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Rei said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Wait, did Rei really just claim that gamers don't believe Uncharted 2 is the game of the show because it doesn't show up the most on a scan of twitter posts and blogs and other internet musings? Am I missing something here?


    Uh oh, I dont think that either 1up or Buzzstudy provide an objective overview on what was the best game of the show. Buzzstudy is closer to reality, however, and that's why I posted it.

It's closer to reality how? The people from 1UP and Buzzstudy probably had hands-on with the games and got to play them. I'd say that's a good opportunity to form an opinion. And you claimed that "gamers" thought differently. But these were really just scans of various places on the internet. And whose to say they thought the games were good? You will find that Natal has the most buzz out of anything in that list, but for all we know, it could just be that 90% of the links are from people who think it looks awful. Let me quote the article itself:

"Oh, and bear this in mind: buzz is buzz. It doesn't differentiate between "good" and "bad", just how often something is discussed. After all, any publicity is good publicity, right?"


   What are you trying to prove here? I said that neither source is objective, have you missed that part?

   What we have here is opinion of five "professional" editors vs. compilation of various internet articles gathered by Buzzstudy. Neither is objective. But out of the two, Buzzstudy is closer to reality.

Okay, but I will quote you. "It seems like gamers have a different opinion." If you don't like me sticking to that quote, you should never have said it. The main difference between the two is that the editors actually gave opinions, either thinking something is good or bad. These random collections of articles could have a variety of opinions, and only show how often something was mentioned. If Buzzstudy scans a number of sites and figures out which part of E3 got the most positive reactions (even by total number), then I'll be impressed.

   Do you really want to continue discussing this meaningless topic? Duh ..

   Sure Buzzstudy counts all kinds of opinions. But let's say there is one hundred (I am being conservative here) of blogs and articles on God of War 3 E3 showing. Let's say 90% of them are negative (that is impossible, but whatever) but 10 are positive. That already makes it 10 people vs 5 people (editors of 1up). Obviously, the majority rules, so I say Buzzstudy is closer to being objective.

 

 

Actually you're arguing populist means better then.  Personally I'm of the view for games, films, etc. that populist doesn't always mean best.

The whole things just the usual bit of fun anyway - mainstream sites/mags pick what title for them seemed the best on the avilable evidence, just as various mainstream sites/mags pick their favourites from film festivals.  In theory as the people picking are supposed to know the medium better their view is normally deemed interesting and to have some weight vs the average joe.

Both are subjective but to be fair the list you provided isn't just games its everything, and includes all views whether supposedly informed or not - i.e. its the populist/buzz view vs supposed experts, and therefore I'd say less relevant to the idea of game of show than the 1Up choice.

In the end it matters little anyway - we all make our own decisions based on our personal preferences.  For example I thought Uncharted 2 also looked like best title shown, until the Last Guardian trailer.  Now Last Guardian is the game I was most impressed by, closerly followed by Uncharted 2 - but that's just my tastes.  I can easily see Mass Effect 2 (looking great BTW), FFIII, God of War 3, etc. seeming the best for others and even understand on what basis.

 



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