disolitude said: lol @ everyone saying GT5 will walk all over Forza 3. Here is something to consider people...Sony is in the 3rd year of the PS3...still no true GT5 title. This is a huge sales loss for Sony as GT5 is pretty much the only system seller they have exclusive. Microsoft and Turn 10 has been able to make 2 Forza games this gen...so obviously it doesn't take that long to make one of these games. So the reasons to why GT5 isn't out yet are: 1. Polyphany Digital is lazy and like to work really slow, despite their parent company(sony) bleeding money and needing their game badly. (not likely) 2. They saw what Forza 2 did, and went scrambling back to the drawing board because that product had more inovation and better features. Come on, use your head fanboys... Im not saying GT5 won't be ebtter, but its obvious that the game is being delayed until they can figure out how to make it better than Forza.

Or C. GT5 has twice as many cars taking twice as long to develop..

Or D. Polyphony has less employees.

Seriously... your telling us to use our heads?

I'm not even sure why I'm in this thread. My last Gran Turismo was part 3 on the PS2 and I've never played a Forza game!

Later dudes!

d21lewis said: I'm not even sure why I'm in this thread. My last Gran Turismo was part 3 on the PS2 and I've never played a Forza game! Later dudes!

LOL my last GT was the first one. Toyota Supra FTW!

lol what a bold statement. I guess they haven't watched any Gran Turismo 5 videos. Need For Speed Shift could even be as good as Forza 3.

JEDE3 said: disolitude said: lol @ everyone saying GT5 will walk all over Forza 3. Here is something to consider people...Sony is in the 3rd year of the PS3...still no true GT5 title. This is a huge sales loss for Sony as GT5 is pretty much the only system seller they have exclusive. Microsoft and Turn 10 has been able to make 2 Forza games this gen...so obviously it doesn't take that long to make one of these games. So the reasons to why GT5 isn't out yet are: 1. Polyphany Digital is lazy and like to work really slow, despite their parent company(sony) bleeding money and needing their game badly. (not likely) 2. They saw what Forza 2 did, and went scrambling back to the drawing board because that product had more inovation and better features. Come on, use your head fanboys... Im not saying GT5 won't be ebtter, but its obvious that the game is being delayed until they can figure out how to make it better than Forza. Or C. GT5 has twice as many cars taking twice as long to develop.. Or D. Polyphony has less employees. Seriously... your telling us to use our heads?

haha, you really think this? You thnk that a Sony flagship studio would not have a small country of people working on their games? Wow... These guys are releasing side games like Tourist Trophy and GT PSP...whie turn 10 only maks Forza. You still think Turn 10 has a bigger team?

@ disolitude, do you know how many employees each has?

How many employees does turn 10 have?

Oh and tnks for option E.

E. Polyphony working on other projects other than GT5.

I just found out that Polyphony have 110, compare that to Naughty Dog who have 90, and Insomniac who have 150

But this is probably the more important page

http://www.polyphony.co.jp/english/list.html

GT 1 shipping about 11m, GT 2 about 9.5m, GT 3 about 15m, GT 4 about 10m, GT 5 Prologue about 3.6m, and a few other versions each selling a few million

JEDE3 said: disolitude said: lol @ everyone saying GT5 will walk all over Forza 3. Here is something to consider people...Sony is in the 3rd year of the PS3...still no true GT5 title. This is a huge sales loss for Sony as GT5 is pretty much the only system seller they have exclusive. Microsoft and Turn 10 has been able to make 2 Forza games this gen...so obviously it doesn't take that long to make one of these games. So the reasons to why GT5 isn't out yet are: 1. Polyphany Digital is lazy and like to work really slow, despite their parent company(sony) bleeding money and needing their game badly. (not likely) 2. They saw what Forza 2 did, and went scrambling back to the drawing board because that product had more inovation and better features. Come on, use your head fanboys... Im not saying GT5 won't be ebtter, but its obvious that the game is being delayed until they can figure out how to make it better than Forza. Or C. GT5 has twice as many cars taking twice as long to develop.. Or D. Polyphony has less employees. Seriously... your telling us to use our heads?

GT5 has more cars, but I believe the reason Forza 3 has less is because they had to make each car with 100's of changable options. They also had to address the handling for each car depending on what tyre you have on the car. Also they have spen time making the tyre deformation engine, which affects your handling whilst racing depending on how you treat your tyres. This is exactly why I love Forza, the attention to detail in the driving and sim aspect is huge. They have also spent alot of time making the game fun with features to no end. Also 100 tracks that look that good is insane. Forza 2 had 52 tracks. So GT5 may have more cars, but Forza 3 absolutely destroys it in features and customization. Even in Forza 2 I was able to play around for 3-4 hours getting the right setup fofr one track with one car. The options are nowhere near that in GT5.