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Steroid on 09 June 2009
jcp234 said:
Steroid said:
jcp234 said:
Steroid said:
If you wanna be my luvah! MS just laid of 17% of its workforce. People said the Titanic couldn't sink. That Lehman Bros couldn't go bankrupt. Milo, Vista Zune, X-Box. When your boat starts taking on that much water (fail) you might want to tone down arrogance.



For you. ;D

Oh and you're throwing around the word "fanboy" pretty liberally. The PS3 is the only Sony console I've ever owned. Plus I have a 360 and a Wii. My opinions are objective, you're just spewing lies.

Yes, unlike Sony, Microsoft actuaully wants to make money. It is cutting cost. Many companies are. Microsoft is obligated to its shareholders to maximize profits. Microsoft is reducing its work force to meet market demands and maintain healthy returns on investments.

And what lies have I been spewing?

I also find it very hard to believe that you are supposed to be objective. Your posts pretty much defy all logic to paint the PS3 as the best thing sinced sliced bread. I am assuming you are trying to convince yourself of your objectivity?

And you're right, Sony is sinking.

Ok you keep swinging those green pom-poms for MS so they can make money. Sony is offering more to the gamers who own their system. Not boning them for overpriced add on's and services: (dead HD-DVD drive, $100 60gg HDD (Omfg?) XBL fees, controller batteries, $100 wifi)? Unless you own MS stock defending these practices is not only strange but massicistic.

To each his own I guess. That's not my thing though.

LOL I do not want or need Blu Ray or Wireless. I have ALWAYS preferred a wired connection to a wireless connection (Verizon FiOs). I am not going to pay extra for features I am not interested in, sorry.

And I am quite happy with X-box live. Especially the integrated Netflix service. You should try it.

And I would rather shake my pom-poms for Microsoft than let you spread this Sony propaganda.

Microsoft allows me the option to purchase the added features I want, not force it into the console and offer the console at a bloated price.

If you have Sony stock, you should probably sell it before things get worse, but I am sure Sony will make it through this.

I just have a thing against fanboys.

 

You didn't buy a HD for your 360? Battery packs for your controller? Netflix streaming bluray quality? LAWL. How will Fios save you from DVD drive failure? No thanks my DVD collection is big enough. :D

 

FYI PS3 has video streaming too. I don't need no bootleg mii avatar to tell me that.

 

All of this, all of this doesn't change the fact that AGENT is a PS3 exclusive. But what does it matter to you? You have great DLC like teh lost and the damned and Gay Tony.



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infamous8 on 09 June 2009
Squilliam said:
infamous8 said:

Perhaps you just read too much into forums.

 

I didnt post at any game forums and only casually read articles back when Ps3 and Wii were launched. I thought it was pretty much common sense that Ps3 would NOT obliterate anything when it came out.

 

A $600 console, with an unproven and unpopular format (BluRay), and an older system (Ps2) that still had a lot of good games coming out for it.

 

However, this gen is far from over and I do think Ps3 will pick up a lot of steam when there's a price drop. If they sell it for $300 USD this Xmas it's going to sell like crazy. BluRay is also more popular now. And since Ps2 is pretty much done with, Sony devs can focus on Ps3 and it's starting to show with great games like KZ2, inFamous, God of War III, etc.

 

 

 

 

A $600 console which can still be used to play top of the line games 3 years later, or a $600 PC which would be struggling? Value really does depend on a lot of things. The only difference is that the $600 PC gets an automatic quick start but it declines rapidly, whilst that PS3 still has yet to peak.

a $600 console is unheard of

a $600 PC is not.

 

End of story.



"I don't have time to play video games anymore, but if I did, I would definitely choose the PlayStation 3 instead of the 360" - President Barack Obama

Squilliam on 09 June 2009
infamous8 said:
Squilliam said:

A $600 console which can still be used to play top of the line games 3 years later, or a $600 PC which would be struggling? Value really does depend on a lot of things. The only difference is that the $600 PC gets an automatic quick start but it declines rapidly, whilst that PS3 still has yet to peak.

a $600 console is unheard of

a $600 PC is not.

 

End of story.

The Sega Saturns adjusted price was $558, the PS1s was $420. The PS3 had a $500 model.

That PC would probably be due for a replacement.

Like I said, it depends what you're comparing it to.



Tease.

jcp234 on 09 June 2009
Steroid said:
jcp234 said:
Steroid said:
jcp234 said:
Steroid said:
If you wanna be my luvah! MS just laid of 17% of its workforce. People said the Titanic couldn't sink. That Lehman Bros couldn't go bankrupt. Milo, Vista Zune, X-Box. When your boat starts taking on that much water (fail) you might want to tone down arrogance.



For you. ;D

Oh and you're throwing around the word "fanboy" pretty liberally. The PS3 is the only Sony console I've ever owned. Plus I have a 360 and a Wii. My opinions are objective, you're just spewing lies.

Yes, unlike Sony, Microsoft actuaully wants to make money. It is cutting cost. Many companies are. Microsoft is obligated to its shareholders to maximize profits. Microsoft is reducing its work force to meet market demands and maintain healthy returns on investments.

And what lies have I been spewing?

I also find it very hard to believe that you are supposed to be objective. Your posts pretty much defy all logic to paint the PS3 as the best thing sinced sliced bread. I am assuming you are trying to convince yourself of your objectivity?

And you're right, Sony is sinking.

Ok you keep swinging those green pom-poms for MS so they can make money. Sony is offering more to the gamers who own their system. Not boning them for overpriced add on's and services: (dead HD-DVD drive, $100 60gg HDD (Omfg?) XBL fees, controller batteries, $100 wifi)? Unless you own MS stock defending these practices is not only strange but massicistic.

To each his own I guess. That's not my thing though.

LOL I do not want or need Blu Ray or Wireless. I have ALWAYS preferred a wired connection to a wireless connection (Verizon FiOs). I am not going to pay extra for features I am not interested in, sorry.

And I am quite happy with X-box live. Especially the integrated Netflix service. You should try it.

And I would rather shake my pom-poms for Microsoft than let you spread this Sony propaganda.

Microsoft allows me the option to purchase the added features I want, not force it into the console and offer the console at a bloated price.

If you have Sony stock, you should probably sell it before things get worse, but I am sure Sony will make it through this.

I just have a thing against fanboys.

 

You didn't buy a HD for your 360? Battery packs for your controller? Netflix streaming bluray quality? LAWL. How will Fios save you from DVD drive failure? No thanks my DVD collection is big enough. :D

 

FYI PS3 has video streaming too. I don't need no bootleg mii avatar to tell me that.

 

All of this, all of this doesn't change the fact that AGENT is a PS3 exclusive. But what does it matter to you? You have great DLC like teh lost and the damned and Gay Tony.

I have a launch system. It came with an HD, why would I buy one? Why would I buy battery packs? I have wired controllers. My setup is in my room. Why do I need blu-ray quality? LMAO  I've never had DVD drive failure.

My 360 RROD'ed one time. I unplugged it....then plugged it back up. HAven't had a problem since.

I have no problem with Agent being exclusive. I never discredited that or denied it in anyway. But the things you originally communicated were just wrong and misleading.



I'm not a fanboy, I just try to tip the balance in favor of logic and common sense.

infamous8 on 09 June 2009
Squilliam said:
infamous8 said:
Squilliam said:

A $600 console which can still be used to play top of the line games 3 years later, or a $600 PC which would be struggling? Value really does depend on a lot of things. The only difference is that the $600 PC gets an automatic quick start but it declines rapidly, whilst that PS3 still has yet to peak.

a $600 console is unheard of

a $600 PC is not.

 

End of story.

The Sega Saturns adjusted price was $558, the PS1s was $420. The PS3 had a $500 model.

That PC would probably be due for a replacement.

Like I said, it depends what you're comparing it to.

Saturn was a huge failure... so why copy there business model?

 

Ps1 was $420... um, $420 and $600 is a big difference.

 

 



"I don't have time to play video games anymore, but if I did, I would definitely choose the PlayStation 3 instead of the 360" - President Barack Obama

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jcp234 on 09 June 2009
infamous8 said:
jcp234 said:
infamous8 said:
"2) Everyone expected the Playstation 3 to completely obliterate the competition once it launched, because of the Playstation brands amazing performance last gen. The Xbox 360 is surpassing expectations and manages to shift more software than the PS3."


Wrong.


Once Ps3 was announced at $599 USD, nobody expected it to oblierate anything. Everyone was making fun of the design (george foreman grill, tanning bed, etc) and saying they'd wait for a price drop.

IIRC people were calling Wii the next big thing and that it would be a hot Xmas item that would be very hard to find...similar to Tickle Me Elmo. People also compared Wii to the iPod for it's simple design, layout, and low price...I remember one report saying something like "wii will be as popular as ipods"... and it turned out to be true.

 

Regardless...developers, the media, and Sony fanboys all thought the PS3 would obliterate the competition...

Sony still expected it to perform well considering the price and Sony fanboys did as well!

Especially when early in the launch it was selling out...only to be resold on ebay!

 

Many claimed the Wii was a fad for the longest.....reality is just setting in for many that the Wii is really changing the game and is here to stay.

Perhaps you just read too much into forums.

 

I didnt post at any game forums and only casually read articles back when Ps3 and Wii were launched. I thought it was pretty much common sense that Ps3 would NOT obliterate anything when it came out.

 

A $600 console, with an unproven and unpopular format (BluRay), and an older system (Ps2) that still had a lot of good games coming out for it.

 

However, this gen is far from over and I do think Ps3 will pick up a lot of steam when there's a price drop. If they sell it for $300 USD this Xmas it's going to sell like crazy. BluRay is also more popular now. And since Ps2 is pretty much done with, Sony devs can focus on Ps3 and it's starting to show with great games like KZ2, inFamous, God of War III, etc.

 

 

 

 

On this particular topic you are right. I must have read too much into forums, because after doing a quick search...most analyst were extremely turned off by the PS3's high price.

But I believe most developers and gamers did expect the PS3 to obliterate the competition until the price was mentioned, so there is truth to what you say.



I'm not a fanboy, I just try to tip the balance in favor of logic and common sense.

Squilliam on 09 June 2009
infamous8 said:
Squilliam said:

The Sega Saturns adjusted price was $558, the PS1s was $420. The PS3 had a $500 model.

That PC would probably be due for a replacement.

Like I said, it depends what you're comparing it to.

Saturn was a huge failure... so why copy there business model?

 

Ps1 was $420... um, $420 and $600 is a big difference.

 

 

The PS3 is now $399 which is less relatively than when the PS1 launched.



Tease.

infamous8 on 09 June 2009

@jcp

if Ps3 launched at a price point of $300-$350.... No Doubt in my mind, it wouldve obliterated the 360 (Wii still wouldve been a hit for its mass appeal and originality)

Once it was announced to be $600..it sent a lot of "WHAT THE FUCK!!"'s through the world, and people knew it wouldnt sell that good.

 

Once it drops to $300 this holiday season I think Ps3 will really hit its stride and start dominating sales all around the world.

 

Also considering the price drop is right around the time Uncharted 2, God of War III, and Gran Turismo 5 are coming out..... ppl will have good reason to buy one.



"I don't have time to play video games anymore, but if I did, I would definitely choose the PlayStation 3 instead of the 360" - President Barack Obama

infamous8 on 09 June 2009
Squilliam said:
infamous8 said:
Squilliam said:

The Sega Saturns adjusted price was $558, the PS1s was $420. The PS3 had a $500 model.

That PC would probably be due for a replacement.

Like I said, it depends what you're comparing it to.

Saturn was a huge failure... so why copy there business model?

 

Ps1 was $420... um, $420 and $600 is a big difference.

 

 

The PS3 is now $399 which is less relatively than when the PS1 launched.

Ps1 wasnt launched during an economic disaster though.

Even though Ps3 is only $400 now, it still has that stigma of being "too expensive" attached to it. Watch what happens when they drop it to $300 this xmas......



"I don't have time to play video games anymore, but if I did, I would definitely choose the PlayStation 3 instead of the 360" - President Barack Obama

Squilliam on 09 June 2009
infamous8 said:

@jcp

if Ps3 launched at a price point of $300-$350.... No Doubt in my mind, it wouldve obliterated the 360 (Wii still wouldve been a hit for its mass appeal and originality)

Once it was announced to be $600..it sent a lot of "WHAT THE FUCK!!"'s through the world, and people knew it wouldnt sell that good.

 

Once it drops to $300 this holiday season I think Ps3 will really hit its stride and start dominating sales all around the world.

 

Also considering the price drop is right around the time Uncharted 2, God of War III, and Gran Turismo 5 are coming out..... ppl will have good reason to buy one.

No Blu Ray, no HDD, slower than the Xbox 360 so it would cede the hardcore completely to the Xbox 360, less difference with the Wii so PS2 owners would have less reason to pick the PS3 over the Wii etc. Also fewer reasons to upgrade, probably no BC either.



Tease.