Million, can't you just declare defeat and give credit where credit is due?

Forza 3 slays the competition.

1 million polygons per car. Wow.

I'm debating with a brick wall , for that reason alone it's logicaly impossible for me to win.

Not unless you kill the brick wall....

I mean knock it down. Yeah, that.

I don't remember seeing Gears 2 get any GOTY awards.  Maybe a 360 fanboy site would but I don't go on those sites any more.  That what made MGS4 great the long cutscenes because for me it helped me understood the story but for Gears I still don't know what the game is about.  I enjoyed the gameplay though but still lost on the story. 

For MS why don't they take the time to make games like KZ2 but instead they spend money to take PS3 exclusives like GTA and MGS.  I guess you can add Alan Wake as a game being develop for a long time and Natal. 

Yes I had a 360 but don't any more.  I believe you know why I don't have it.  I can still sign in on the xbox 360 site too.  My XBL account is canceled so I don't know why I still have an account.  MS must think I'm coming back to XBL.

This discussion is really just a big old waste of time and is all speculation.  There is absolutely no way from the consumer point of view that we can objectively determine what the "maxed out strength"  is of each system. 

The only way to do so would be to have a benchmarking program much like 3d mark 06 which is used for the PC industry.  If this could be run on both consoles, it would give us an OBJECTIVE number-based rating of their overall graphical/computational power.  Unfortunately a program like this just is not available.

So again, this is all speculation and just a good ol' waste of time. 

You aren't really interested on debating, as in a honest exchange of ideas that ends up in agreement and a more thorough understanding of each viewpoint.

You are just trying to score points for your side of the fence.

Aren't you demanding too much? They are Electronic Arts, not Electronic Efficiency!     

Maybe the 10x polygons is total for both inside and outside the car. I think I heard they didn't have a cockpit view before. If that's the case then it doesn't render all 1,000,000 at any given time on screen.
Tech folk can correct me if that is at all a possibility

i think alan wake doesnt look like heavy rain...

and i think crytek will be best on a pc..

but iunno, i think he said that cause of how vaslty the grahics of sony games have gone up when microsoft cant even get one game to look that good throughout( i like halo 3 first level looked just as good but level 2 was worse. 3 even worse etc etc. the last level was pathetic...)