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68soul on 05 June 2009
Mojo said:

I know Nintendo liked to think they were appealing to the hardcore Wii audience, but I don't think these games are enough in 2009. Wii Sports Resort, Wii Fit Plus, and NSMBW will all sell quite a bit, but they are ALL for the casual audience. I'm sure Mario will be fun but it really seems like it is a much easier version of the old 2D games and one meant for the whole family to play. It is designed to be played with multiple people but doesn't even have online capability. While I think this is a better lineup than the Wii Music/Animal Crossing debacle of 2008, this is still a fairly week finish to the year for Nintendo. Now 2010 on the other hand sounds like it could be their best year yet on Wii.

 

Even if these games are for a "casual audience" (and i don't agree with that statement, these games could please anyone with an open-mind, both core and casual), there are still many 3rd parties comin' as well, creatin' a very diverse (and high quality) future Wii line-up...

What shocked me during this E3 is this: Sony and Microsoft "win" by showing all the 3rd parties efforts comin' on PS360, and Wii "looses", but if you focus ONLY on 1st party, and totally forget about all the other awesome games comin'... it's another form of bias, one i didn't see comin': Wii haters never cease to amaze me...

So, i know ALL these games won't be realeased for this holiday season, but even if only half of these do, it's already impressive, and quite expensive for any Wii lover out there: Monster Hunter 3, FFCC Crystal Bearers, Dead Space Extraction, Ju-On, Red Steel 2, Muramasa, Fragile, RE Darkside Chronicles, Silent Hill Shattered Memories, Spyborgs, No More Heroes 2, Sin and Punishment 2, Rabbids Go Home, A Boy and His Blob...

These are the ones comin' to my mind, and i don't even mention DS games that could appeal to the same crowd: Mario and Luigi 3, Golden Sun, Professor Layton, Kingdom Hearts, Zelda Spirit Tracks anyone? And Dragon Quest 9 for Japan, too...

If you add sports games like Grand Slam Tennis or Tiger Woods (with huge legs till the holiday season thanks to WM+), plus music games like Beatles Rock Band or DJ Hero, plus "only a few" new 1st parties like Wii Fit Plus, Wii Sports Resort and New Super Mario Bros Wii, plus some of the back catalog you may have missed (Little King Story, by example: i'm sure 99,99% of the "hardcore" gamers will miss that one, just like Okami in the previous gen), you have so many ways to spend your money on great games that it's gettin' totally insane, at least for anyone with a "normal" budget...

And if it's STILL not enough for you: you also have PS3, PSP, X360, PC, plus Wiiware, Virtual Console and all the other download services... hard to complain if you like videogames these days, don't you think?

 

 



 

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woopah on 05 June 2009

red steel 2 and crystal bearers for me thanks :D



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Avinash_Tyagi on 05 June 2009

Red Steel 2, NSMB Wii, Wii Fit Plus, Wii Sports Resort, Rabbids



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

puffy on 05 June 2009

This year is pretty big..

Black Wii launching in Japan
Wii Motion Plus launching worldwide

Wii Sports Resort
Wii Fit Plus
New Super Mario Bros. Wii
Punch-Out!! (not out where I live yet)
Mario & Sonic at the Winter Olympics
The Conduit
Red Steel 2
Rabbids Go Home
Grand Slam Tennis
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicals: The Crystal Bearers
Metroid Prime Trilogy
Dead Space Extraction
Resident Evil Archives
Resident Evil: Darkside Chronicles
Cursed Mountain
Silent Hill: Shattered Memories
Spyborgs
Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom: Ultimate All-Stars
EA Sports Active Expansion
Your Shape
Need for Speed: Nitro
Dirt 2
F1 2009
Overlord: Dark Legend
TMNT: Smash Up!
Indiana Jones and the Staff of Kings
Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince
Guitar Hero 5
DJ Hero
Band Hero
The Beatles: Rockband
Shaun White Snowboarding: World Stage
A Boy and his Blob
Ghostbusters: The Video Game
Arc Rise Fantasia

Edit: Also Tony Hawk RIDE


There's probably more but that's what I can think of off the top of my head.. Let me know if I've missed anything :P

But look at that list and think about the titles that we've already gotten this year like MadWorld, House of the Dead and Punch-Out!! It hasn't been all bad and things are really changing now.. 2010 we'll have games like..

Super Mario Galaxy 2
Metroid Other M
Zelda Wii
NMH2
Sin & Punishment 2

Not to mention massive third party support in bound.. It's looking tasty!



 

hsrob on 05 June 2009

Nintendo has recently stated that they like to make their kind of games and encourage 3rd parties to make THEIR own kind of games rather than try to make Nintendo-like games. This tells us that Nintendo doesn't see their catalogue to be in any way complete rather it hopes that it will complement and be complemented by 3rd party releases.

Looking at the Wii releases list for the year in it's entirety it could be argued that this is the first year where this idea may actually come to fruition.



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Mojo on 06 June 2009
DKII said:
Mojo said:

I know Nintendo liked to think they were appealing to the hardcore Wii audience, but I don't think these games are enough in 2009. Wii Sports Resort, Wii Fit Plus, and NSMBW will all sell quite a bit, but they are ALL for the casual audience. I'm sure Mario will be fun but it really seems like it is a much easier version of the old 2D games and one meant for the whole family to play. It is designed to be played with multiple people but doesn't even have online capability. While I think this is a better lineup than the Wii Music/Animal Crossing debacle of 2008, this is still a fairly week finish to the year for Nintendo. Now 2010 on the other hand sounds like it could be their best year yet on Wii.

People really will bitch about anything. New Super Mario Bros. Wii is my game of the show, and I'd rather have that than a dozen Mario Galaxies. Your complaints are all invalid - itn'st not easy, and online would add absolutely zero to the fun of having everyone in the same room. Frankly, no matter what Nintendo had people like you wouldn't be satisfied because you're not really looking for good news anyway.

 

Sorry, i guess I should have opened my post by saying "if anyone gets offended about comments made about Nintendo or that you might now agree with, please do not read".

 

If NSMB Wii is your game of the show, that is great. Honestly, I am glad you look forward to the game. I personally was underwhelmed. I am sure it will be fun, but I didn't immediately feel like I had to have that game. Now the fact that we have different opinions is OK...we are both individuals who are allowed to have different opinions. Just because you don't agree with my complaints, does not make them invalid. I have owned every Nintendo console since the NES and have played 100s of games on them over the years. I think I am entitled to forming my own opinions about what I like and do not like about nintendo products.

 

One final thing, just because I don't think Nintendo' conference was that great and you did, don't for a second think you know me and what I think. I personally thought Nintendo was going to have an amazing conference. I thought they were going to wipe the floor with Microsoft and Sony. For teh msot part I was underwhlemed but they really got me excited in the last 15 mins, especially with Metroid. That was my game of the show because it seems to offer something different. Unfortunately that won't be out until next year.



 



Mojo on 06 June 2009
steven787 said:
Mojo said:

I know Nintendo liked to think they were appealing to the hardcore Wii audience, but I don't think these games are enough in 2009. Wii Sports Resort, Wii Fit Plus, and NSMBW will all sell quite a bit, but they are ALL for the casual audience. I'm sure Mario will be fun but it really seems like it is a much easier version of the old 2D games and one meant for the whole family to play. It is designed to be played with multiple people but doesn't even have online capability. While I think this is a better lineup than the Wii Music/Animal Crossing debacle of 2008, this is still a fairly week finish to the year for Nintendo. Now 2010 on the other hand sounds like it could be their best year yet on Wii.

What? Animal crossing sold 3 million and Wii Music sold 2.5 million...  I personally think the games suck and have said so many times but they are not failures.  Wii Music still sells 8k a week and AC 15k. 

Edit: On a side note, Wii sold had 24 million units of software move last year... I don't see how Nintendo and sales can be called a debacle.

 

I never said AC/Wii Music didn't sell well. But I persoanlly was completely disappointed when I saw that line-up last year. Both games looked really boring to me. If other people liked them, then great, but they were not for me, and I know I am not the only person who thinks that way.



 



Mojo on 06 June 2009
famousringo said:
DKII said:
Mojo said:

I know Nintendo liked to think they were appealing to the hardcore Wii audience, but I don't think these games are enough in 2009. Wii Sports Resort, Wii Fit Plus, and NSMBW will all sell quite a bit, but they are ALL for the casual audience. I'm sure Mario will be fun but it really seems like it is a much easier version of the old 2D games and one meant for the whole family to play. It is designed to be played with multiple people but doesn't even have online capability. While I think this is a better lineup than the Wii Music/Animal Crossing debacle of 2008, this is still a fairly week finish to the year for Nintendo. Now 2010 on the other hand sounds like it could be their best year yet on Wii.

People really will bitch about anything. New Super Mario Bros. Wii is my game of the show, and I'd rather have that than a dozen Mario Galaxies. Your complaints are all invalid - itn'st not easy, and online would add absolutely zero to the fun of having everyone in the same room. Frankly, no matter what Nintendo had people like you wouldn't be satisfied because you're not really looking for good news anyway.

The point of having online is to add to the fun of not having everyone in the same room. As awesome as it would be to have a crew of buddies ready at all times to play NSMBW with me, it ain't gonna happen. And I suspect single-player gameplay will be relatively disappointing for a Mario platformer.

No big deal for me. Lots of great third party stuff to buy instead.

Thanks you for actually listening to what I have to say and not explode at me like some of the other posters just becuase I have a different opinion than them. This is exactly why I thought this game needs online, for the people that won't have 3 friends to play with them all the time. Nintendo even said that you need more people to reach certain areas in the game. Thus, the single player expereince is not complete. Having online capability would allow those players to expereince the full game.



 



Mojo on 06 June 2009
68soul said:
Mojo said:

I know Nintendo liked to think they were appealing to the hardcore Wii audience, but I don't think these games are enough in 2009. Wii Sports Resort, Wii Fit Plus, and NSMBW will all sell quite a bit, but they are ALL for the casual audience. I'm sure Mario will be fun but it really seems like it is a much easier version of the old 2D games and one meant for the whole family to play. It is designed to be played with multiple people but doesn't even have online capability. While I think this is a better lineup than the Wii Music/Animal Crossing debacle of 2008, this is still a fairly week finish to the year for Nintendo. Now 2010 on the other hand sounds like it could be their best year yet on Wii.

 

Even if these games are for a "casual audience" (and i don't agree with that statement, these games could please anyone with an open-mind, both core and casual), there are still many 3rd parties comin' as well, creatin' a very diverse (and high quality) future Wii line-up...

What shocked me during this E3 is this: Sony and Microsoft "win" by showing all the 3rd parties efforts comin' on PS360, and Wii "looses", but if you focus ONLY on 1st party, and totally forget about all the other awesome games comin'... it's another form of bias, one i didn't see comin': Wii haters never cease to amaze me...

So, i know ALL these games won't be realeased for this holiday season, but even if only half of these do, it's already impressive, and quite expensive for any Wii lover out there: Monster Hunter 3, FFCC Crystal Bearers, Dead Space Extraction, Ju-On, Red Steel 2, Muramasa, Fragile, RE Darkside Chronicles, Silent Hill Shattered Memories, Spyborgs, No More Heroes 2, Sin and Punishment 2, Rabbids Go Home, A Boy and His Blob...

These are the ones comin' to my mind, and i don't even mention DS games that could appeal to the same crowd: Mario and Luigi 3, Golden Sun, Professor Layton, Kingdom Hearts, Zelda Spirit Tracks anyone? And Dragon Quest 9 for Japan, too...

If you add sports games like Grand Slam Tennis or Tiger Woods (with huge legs till the holiday season thanks to WM+), plus music games like Beatles Rock Band or DJ Hero, plus "only a few" new 1st parties like Wii Fit Plus, Wii Sports Resort and New Super Mario Bros Wii, plus some of the back catalog you may have missed (Little King Story, by example: i'm sure 99,99% of the "hardcore" gamers will miss that one, just like Okami in the previous gen), you have so many ways to spend your money on great games that it's gettin' totally insane, at least for anyone with a "normal" budget...

And if it's STILL not enough for you: you also have PS3, PSP, X360, PC, plus Wiiware, Virtual Console and all the other download services... hard to complain if you like videogames these days, don't you think?

 

 

Honestly, I do have an open mind when it coems to casual games. I have plenty of those games for the Wii. But these days I have played so many, I want something with a bit mroe challenege, something not intended for the whole family to enjoy. Metroid looks great. if they had announced that as a 2009 game, I think Nintendo could have earned a lot of extra praise.



 



Mr Khan on 06 June 2009

I am vaguely disappointed, but NSMBWii will be enough, when paired alongside Phantom Hourglass for DS, and one of the many 3rd party games (debating at this point between Phantasy Star Zero and Tatsunoko vs Capcom)



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