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Forums - Nintendo - what's the Wii's big game(s) for the fall/holiday season?

Shanobi said:
Does anybody ever consider that sometimes Nintendo may actually hold back on titles when some big 3rd party titles are being released to help their sales?

Especially when, as ioi put it, they have 3 games that are going to absolutely crush everything this holiday season?

Didn't they basically say that Super Mario Galaxy is basically done, but they're not going to release it because they don't want it to compete with NSMBWii?

NSMBWii, Wii Sports Resort, and Wii Fit Plus are a terrifying combination. Combine the fact that Mario Kart Wii will still be selling in the top 10 for the foreseeable future, and competitors have a real fight to get to the top of the sales charts.



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ofcourse theyre holding back. But that doesn't mean they still won't release other games, they just won't be as huge, ie. excitebots or endless ocean 2.



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Showertea said:
Shanobi said:
Does anybody ever consider that sometimes Nintendo may actually hold back on titles when some big 3rd party titles are being released to help their sales?

Especially when, as ioi put it, they have 3 games that are going to absolutely crush everything this holiday season?

Didn't they basically say that Super Mario Galaxy is basically done, but they're not going to release it because they don't want it to compete with NSMBWii?

Are you serious?

Now I hate NSMB Wii even more >_>



Endless Ocean 2 comes out Q1 2010...

It may seem shitty that Nintendo isn't releasing games faster but people are still buying older games.  It's just business, if they speed up releases they are competing with themselves.

That being said, if the Wii sees a significant drop in hardware and software sales, they'll probably speed up releases to create interest.  I just don't see that happening.

Edit: I wanted to bring up the sales "failure" Punch-Out!.  This game outsold Bionic Commando and Terminator Salvation.  I am guessing that the legs will also carry the game far beyond those and many others.  On Wii first and third party games have incredible legs.

Edit2: BTW, I think third parties are way to quick to cut prices and do not actively promote games that are already out.  They should not cut prices so soon (for their sake, not ours) and they should advertise more games that are actually on shelves.



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puffy said:
New Super Mario Bros. Wii and Wii Fit Plus is a much better holiday line up than Animal Crossing and Wii Music.

much bigger too



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I know Nintendo liked to think they were appealing to the hardcore Wii audience, but I don't think these games are enough in 2009. Wii Sports Resort, Wii Fit Plus, and NSMBW will all sell quite a bit, but they are ALL for the casual audience. I'm sure Mario will be fun but it really seems like it is a much easier version of the old 2D games and one meant for the whole family to play. It is designed to be played with multiple people but doesn't even have online capability. While I think this is a better lineup than the Wii Music/Animal Crossing debacle of 2008, this is still a fairly week finish to the year for Nintendo. Now 2010 on the other hand sounds like it could be their best year yet on Wii.



 



Mojo said:

I know Nintendo liked to think they were appealing to the hardcore Wii audience, but I don't think these games are enough in 2009. Wii Sports Resort, Wii Fit Plus, and NSMBW will all sell quite a bit, but they are ALL for the casual audience. I'm sure Mario will be fun but it really seems like it is a much easier version of the old 2D games and one meant for the whole family to play. It is designed to be played with multiple people but doesn't even have online capability. While I think this is a better lineup than the Wii Music/Animal Crossing debacle of 2008, this is still a fairly week finish to the year for Nintendo. Now 2010 on the other hand sounds like it could be their best year yet on Wii.

People really will bitch about anything. New Super Mario Bros. Wii is my game of the show, and I'd rather have that than a dozen Mario Galaxies. Your complaints are all invalid - itn'st not easy, and online would add absolutely zero to the fun of having everyone in the same room. Frankly, no matter what Nintendo had people like you wouldn't be satisfied because you're not really looking for good news anyway.



Mojo said:

I know Nintendo liked to think they were appealing to the hardcore Wii audience, but I don't think these games are enough in 2009. Wii Sports Resort, Wii Fit Plus, and NSMBW will all sell quite a bit, but they are ALL for the casual audience. I'm sure Mario will be fun but it really seems like it is a much easier version of the old 2D games and one meant for the whole family to play. It is designed to be played with multiple people but doesn't even have online capability. While I think this is a better lineup than the Wii Music/Animal Crossing debacle of 2008, this is still a fairly week finish to the year for Nintendo. Now 2010 on the other hand sounds like it could be their best year yet on Wii.

What? Animal crossing sold 3 million and Wii Music sold 2.5 million...  I personally think the games suck and have said so many times but they are not failures.  Wii Music still sells 8k a week and AC 15k. 

Edit: On a side note, Wii sold had 24 million units of software move last year... I don't see how Nintendo and sales can be called a debacle.



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DKII said:
Mojo said:

I know Nintendo liked to think they were appealing to the hardcore Wii audience, but I don't think these games are enough in 2009. Wii Sports Resort, Wii Fit Plus, and NSMBW will all sell quite a bit, but they are ALL for the casual audience. I'm sure Mario will be fun but it really seems like it is a much easier version of the old 2D games and one meant for the whole family to play. It is designed to be played with multiple people but doesn't even have online capability. While I think this is a better lineup than the Wii Music/Animal Crossing debacle of 2008, this is still a fairly week finish to the year for Nintendo. Now 2010 on the other hand sounds like it could be their best year yet on Wii.

People really will bitch about anything. New Super Mario Bros. Wii is my game of the show, and I'd rather have that than a dozen Mario Galaxies. Your complaints are all invalid - itn'st not easy, and online would add absolutely zero to the fun of having everyone in the same room. Frankly, no matter what Nintendo had people like you wouldn't be satisfied because you're not really looking for good news anyway.

The point of having online is to add to the fun of not having everyone in the same room. As awesome as it would be to have a crew of buddies ready at all times to play NSMBW with me, it ain't gonna happen. And I suspect single-player gameplay will be relatively disappointing for a Mario platformer.

No big deal for me. Lots of great third party stuff to buy instead.



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OMG, I can't believe I forgot M&S at the Winter Olympics. It's published by Sega but it's gonna be one of the best selling titles of the year. It is coming out this year right?

The problem is Nintendo needs to go beyond Mario, Wii Sports, or Wii Fit. They probably want something that will further expand the market. Maybe the relaxation game for Wii VS (I can't believe I am talking about a heart rate monitor positively) can do it. Maybe Nintendo is waiting for the Wii Fit/Sports craze to die down a little.



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