By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Gaming - Nintendo has won Japan for the year

Zlejedi said:
I love the logic in OP post which says Bayonetta/Tekken6 and other multiplatforms are going to sell 100% of copies on X360 in Japan aparently :D

I also love the logic that states these will be as big as a GT, MH, Mario Bros. These are good games but they are not going to sell to that level. Tekken 5 did what, 300k in Japan? Bayonetta will likely do no more than that. All the games that I listed will do that in one week most likely.

 

 



Now Playing: The Witcher (PC)

Consoles Owned: NES, SNES, N64, PS1, PS2, Wii, Xbox 360, Game Boy, DS

Around the Network

Sorry to bring this old argument back, but if Asians are so cheap. Then why do they pay more (much more) for games and movies? Why did 400k+ pay more than $100 for the standard edition of MGS4?



"We'll toss the dice however they fall,
And snuggle the girls be they short or tall,
Then follow young Mat whenever he calls,
To dance with Jak o' the Shadows."

Check out MyAnimeList and my Game Collection. Owner of the 5 millionth post.

axumblade said:
dahuman said:
not if they don't have the spending power ^^;;;. Sony needs to stop coming out with things that are so god damn expensive, I'm personally getting really sick of it.

That's your personal opinion on the matter.I agree it's a little too expensive but I don't think that'll deter people as much as you think it will.

Exactly how much are Sony charging for the PSP Go! in Japan anyway?

Sony will be charging 26,800 yen (tax included) for the PSP Go in Japan, which is roughly $273 US dollars at the current exchange rate. For comparison, the standard PSP-3000 costs 19,800 yen (tax included), which is about $201 US dollars.There is also a PSP-3000 value pack that includes a 4GB Sony Memory Stick Pro DUO, a carrying case(same color as the PSP you buy), strap, and cleaning cloth for 24,800yen, ~$252.

Now the price difference will be even greater between the DSL/DSi. The DSi's MSRP is 18,900 yen (tax included), ~$192 US dollars and the DS Lite is 16,800yen (tax included), ~$171 US dollars. All of these prices are MSRP though you can usually get each system for ~$10 cheaper from Amazon JP or other stores.




starcraft: "I and every PS3 fanboy alive are waiting for Versus more than FFXIII.
Me since the games were revealed, the fanboys since E3."

Skeeuk: "playstation 3 is the ultimate in gaming acceleration"

I would still think that FFXIII is going to be a lot bigger than Monster Hunter 3...



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

Ail said:
I would still think that FFXIII is going to be a lot bigger than Monster Hunter 3...


You´re most likely right there but MH 3 together with Wii Sports Resort, Super Mario Bros Wii and Wii Fit + will be bigger than FFXIII + GT 5.



Around the Network

What about Samurai Warriors 3 for Wii? Should be able to sell 200-300 k at least don´t you think? I remember reading somewhere that it´s set to be released in Japan in november.



outlawauron said:
Sorry to bring this old argument back, but if Asians are so cheap. Then why do they pay more (much more) for games and movies? Why did 400k+ pay more than $100 for the standard edition of MGS4?

Its the reliance on Digital Download and the price that is going to hurt the go. DD will kill it.

 

Also, I don't have a prediction for Sam Warrior. It could do that, or it could do alot less. I really don't know much about the series or the spinoffs that released.



Now Playing: The Witcher (PC)

Consoles Owned: NES, SNES, N64, PS1, PS2, Wii, Xbox 360, Game Boy, DS

axumblade said:
Aiemond said:
outlawauron said:
Sorry to bring this old argument back, but if Asians are so cheap. Then why do they pay more (much more) for games and movies? Why did 400k+ pay more than $100 for the standard edition of MGS4?

Its the reliance on Digital Download and the price that is going to hurt the go. DD will kill it.

 

Also, I don't have a prediction for Sam Warrior. It could do that, or it could do alot less. I really don't know much about the series or the spinoffs that released.

I don't understand why you think DD will kill it..

Because the Japenese market likes physical copies of software. I don't think their level of acceptence of DD is near what it is in the west.



Now Playing: The Witcher (PC)

Consoles Owned: NES, SNES, N64, PS1, PS2, Wii, Xbox 360, Game Boy, DS

axumblade said:
Aiemond said:
axumblade said:
Aiemond said:
outlawauron said:
Sorry to bring this old argument back, but if Asians are so cheap. Then why do they pay more (much more) for games and movies? Why did 400k+ pay more than $100 for the standard edition of MGS4?

Its the reliance on Digital Download and the price that is going to hurt the go. DD will kill it.

 

Also, I don't have a prediction for Sam Warrior. It could do that, or it could do alot less. I really don't know much about the series or the spinoffs that released.

I don't understand why you think DD will kill it..

Because the Japenese market likes physical copies of software. I don't think their level of acceptence of DD is near what it is in the west.

How do you know that though? We don't really get a listing for the PSP DD sales and Nintendo's offerings on the DSi have been terrible thus far so I wouldn't doubt that most people wouldn't bother buying them. The only game I'm interested in on the DSiware is Mario vs. Donkey Kong 3.

You right, I can't be sure. We shall just have to see.



Now Playing: The Witcher (PC)

Consoles Owned: NES, SNES, N64, PS1, PS2, Wii, Xbox 360, Game Boy, DS

sc94597 said:
dahuman said:
sc94597 said:
dahuman said:
sc94597 said:
dahuman said:
axumblade said:
dahuman said:
axumblade said:
dahuman said:
not if they don't have the spending power ^^;;;. Sony needs to stop coming out with things that are so god damn expensive, I'm personally getting really sick of it.

That's your personal opinion on the matter.I agree it's a little too expensive but I don't think that'll deter people as much as you think it will.

Exactly how much are Sony charging for the PSP Go! in Japan anyway?

only that most asian peole are cheap like me, anyways, 250 USD>yen, however much the conversion will be when it launches.

and that's a stereotype. x.o

that's because I'm Asian, some stereotypes are true.

Racial classificatin has no truths when it comes to stereotypes. Stereotypes only have a mild chance of being true when you look into an ethnic group. Asia,doesn't share the same values as closely as the west does(which is pretty much all christian, with divergents between groups) , and all of them fit into very different ethnic groups. Japan itself, has been mostly isolated for 2,000 years before the meiji restoration. It has very different values, and some similar ones from other asian countries. So generalizations, like the one you are making, shouldn't be made at all, but if you are to make one at least make one on a group of people who share the same ideas and values. Racial Classification has nothing to do with stereotypes is all I'm saying.  Oh and the only way I would recognize your stereotype as anywhere near valid, is if you were raised in Japan, and have seen what the average person acts like. Even then I find any stereotype hard to believe.  Also in the specific case that you mentioned about "asians being cheap", I just want to tell you that that is ALL relative on the person. Some people are cheap while others are not. Being "asian"  has nothing to do with it.

well, if you know details about the history of Asian countries in general, then you'd know that the time of poverty>>>>>>>>time of prosperity by a ton, so would it really surprise you that people are more picky about money in general? it sure doesn't me because I've traveled all over and lived all over, Japan is no different, they've especially had a bad history of poverty outside of China's longer history, and most of the time worse.

Japan is an isolated island with tons of resouces relative to its population. Actually today the problem seems to be more about space than resources, which is rare.  How else do you think they industrialized a few decades before almost every other East Asian country? I doubt anybody would say Japan's history of poverty is anywhere near that of China. Tons and Tons of people starved to death, and still starve to day. You rarely hear about that about Japan or anything about that in their history. The most you probably hear or read about is the poverty after the Pacific War, but it seems about right that any country after a war would be impoverished. Now I'm not saying poverty was non-existant, no of course not, every civilization in existance had impoverished people. Also imo, economic history rarely affects anybody today compared to that of what is happening in the economy as of present. With extensive global trade, the economy of a country could change in months, and that means the average person is always changing their spending habits to fit this. This is unlike in earlier times, when economies were the same for hundreds of years, and there were strict classes. If the japanese were as cheap as you say, I doubt the average person would buy a new cell phone every month just cause they want the latest thing. I doubt expensive luxuries like video games would be prevelant. I doubt they would try to go for the latest technologies like they have been. Instead it seems very common to see things that are high tech, but trivial there such as vending machines for just about anything you could have. So like I said, stereotyping is rarely true.

I'm only going to list a few things, because you are typing too much information that are not needed since you clearly don't understand Japanese society, in the spam of the JP history until recently, no chairs, some benchs, chopsticks, no spoons, a ton of yellow bean products, some rice, some wheat, almost no land meat, sometimes random mountain herbs, some seafoods, cold ass weather that can't grow a lot of things, and tatami, that's it man, for the whole country, for thousands of years. oh and civil wars. saving is imbued into the society just by looking at their general living style too, and for good reasons, they haven't had the spending power for years now either. in fact they just admitted that the country is in deep deep trouble last month, the reason why you don't know this is because, 1.) they didn't release such information before and 2.) you haven't spent enough time there and simply don't know how they live.

for years now, the electronic business and gaming industry has been shrinking in Japan, that's because people simply have no money and they have to save to get by, those are not needed products and the cost of living is simply way too high, cell phone sales have been going down as well, and not just cell phones, everything. and those vending machines and public showers you have to put money in, those? good for the homeless, convient if it's downstairs, but at least they don't always need an address to get a job unlike in the states.

and don't even get me started with the Chinese side of things(or southern Asia in general,) the history is 10 times shittier. trust me, we are cheap asses in general, for good reasons.

I think that is more relative to the technology, and resouces they had, not that they don't have enough money  for other things. Most of those things you mentioned were brought over during the yayoi period.  Also I agree that China and other mainland countries have had it a lot worse, that is why I said asia isn't as interconnected as Europe was. As for them spending less, it is like that all of the world.  Same thing is happening here in the U.S. That also proves my point that their spending habits are based on what is happening now, and shouldn't be generalized to their ethnic group rather than to their countries situation. So you admit that they are cheap because they don't have it, not because their beliefs right? That is the main point I'm trying to get across. You generalized asians as cheap without any extra information. Cheap could be defined imo as having the money to buy something, but don't buy it because you don't want to spend the money on something trivial. Your support for the statement was that they aren't able to buy it which would mean they are NOT cheap, but just can't get it. When they were able to buy it sales were blooming right?

no, Yayoi's when they were starting to document things because that country didn't even have written words back then until some Chinese people went over there due to some really dumb reasons(also the basics of their current culture and sword making, which is actually bad design,) there are a lot of back stories that Japan bullshits about or doesn't acknowledge or won't admit unless you brute force them just like the 2 atomic bombs. poverty has been a problem through out thousands of years all over.

btw, you are thinking recent years of history, I'm talking about their society, if the general people weren't being cheap and feel to need to not spend money, sales would be much higher even 20 years ago, people simply don't live that way because they have a long history of not having a lot and it shows if you look at their ways of living. this is shown all throughout Asia, I know what I'm talking about because I've spent more than half of my life going around those countries, I understand how and why. Japan's government is also corrupted as all hell, a lot of the information you get are false or BS, it is nothing like any western country in general.