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seece said:
2015 with this strategy? why do people think 80 million is impossible?

oh let me guess

"4 years on the market (actually 3 years 7 months) and its barely sold 30 million (actually 30.40M) 2008 was the 360's peak year (despite 2009 tracking around 30% higher this year so far) price drops will do nothing now (a $99 360 is going to set sales soaring again) the 360 will be dead in 2011 (despite people in the industry stating otherwise)"

Something like that no?

I wouldn't be so sure of that. Sony is certainly in the best position to meet the life cycle of 10 + years, but even with the hurdles considered...the 360 could probably make that if they start shifting content to less hardcore audiences. Afteral the people who own a wii are not concerned with graphics. Personally, I think this is the begining of the end for the 360, but that's just what I think and I have no fact to confirm that.

When the Economy returns, so will console sales. None of them will reach 80 million only selling 130k a week, but with the right push of games at the right time, we might see a spike into the high 200k - low 300k wow for bit.



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kaneada said:
seece said:
2015 with this strategy? why do people think 80 million is impossible?

oh let me guess

"4 years on the market (actually 3 years 7 months) and its barely sold 30 million (actually 30.40M) 2008 was the 360's peak year (despite 2009 tracking around 30% higher this year so far) price drops will do nothing now (a $99 360 is going to set sales soaring again) the 360 will be dead in 2011 (despite people in the industry stating otherwise)"

Something like that no?

I wouldn't be so sure of that. Sony is certainly in the best position to meet the life cycle of 10 + years, but even with the hurdles considered...the 360 could probably make that if they start shifting content to less hardcore audiences. Afteral the people who own a wii are not concerned with graphics. Personally, I think this is the begining of the end for the 360, but that's just what I think and I have no fact to confirm that.

When the Economy returns, so will console sales. None of them will reach 80 million only selling 130k a week, but with the right push of games at the right time, we might see a spike into the high 200k - low 300k wow for bit.

Well I am sure about it and that just came across as a load of sony fanboy FUD.



 

I don't think MS and sony have to worry about a hardware refresh for a while now.. Nintendo has room for one though. Wii HD?



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Strategyking92 said:
I don't think MS and sony have to worry about a hardware refresh for a while now.. Nintendo has room for one though. Wii HD?


Well, according to this posting at N4G, the 360 might have problems with Modern Warfare 3, I think a Xbox 360.5 is probably in the works...it would deliver more power, but developers won't have to worry about learning a new OS:

http://www.n4g.com/events_e32009/News-340048.aspx

Infinity Ward: Modern Warfare pushes Xbox 360 to its "upper limits"

VG247: Speaking with VG247 at E3 this week, Infinity Ward's Mark Rubin said that Modern Warfare 2 leaves the Xbox 360 winded and gasping for breath. At this point, he noted, it's all about finding little tricks to squeeze more power out of the aging machine.

 

 

 

 



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The longer the life cycle the better. We need to get our games worth out of these consoles.



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heruamon said:
Strategyking92 said:
I don't think MS and sony have to worry about a hardware refresh for a while now.. Nintendo has room for one though. Wii HD?


Well, according to this posting at N4G, the 360 might have problems with Modern Warfare 3, I think a Xbox 360.5 is probably in the works...it would deliver more power, but developers won't have to worry about learning a new OS:

http://www.n4g.com/events_e32009/News-340048.aspx

Infinity Ward: Modern Warfare pushes Xbox 360 to its "upper limits"

VG247: Speaking with VG247 at E3 this week, Infinity Ward's Mark Rubin said that Modern Warfare 2 leaves the Xbox 360 winded and gasping for breath. At this point, he noted, it's all about finding little tricks to squeeze more power out of the aging machine.

 

 

 

 

I bet even while Mark Rubin says this, other developers are screaming "STFU!!!". It's hard not to imagine this while it's so hard to break even now a days, lol.



And that's the only thing I need is *this*. I don't need this or this. Just this PS4... And this gaming PC. - The PS4 and the Gaming PC and that's all I need... And this Xbox 360. - The PS4, the Gaming PC, and the Xbox 360, and that's all I need... And these PS3's. - The PS4, and these PS3's, and the Gaming PC, and the Xbox 360... And this Nintendo DS. - The PS4, this Xbox 360, and the Gaming PC, and the PS3's, and that's all *I* need. And that's *all* I need too. I don't need one other thing, not one... I need this. - The Gaming PC and PS4, and Xbox 360, and thePS3's . Well what are you looking at? What do you think I'm some kind of a jerk or something! - And this. That's all I need.

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Sounds like I've been right all along. Gears 3 on the nextbox coming in 2010.  They had better try to get a new franchise fixed up for the console they plan to follow 360 + with because both Halo and Gears will be extremely venerable in 2014 and in going on 8 years in the console business they've only come up with two internal franchises capable of moving systems and as stated both will be ancient by the time they release next nextbox.



It will be funny if sony decides to launch a year early to get a head start over microsoft next gen.



txrattlesnake said:

Sounds like I've been right all along. Gears 3 on the nextbox coming in 2010.  They had better try to get a new franchise fixed up for the console they plan to follow 360 + with because both Halo and Gears will be extremely venerable in 2014 and in going on 8 years in the console business they've only come up with two internal franchises capable of moving systems and as stated both will be ancient by the time they release next nextbox.

As oppose to Sony's 1 .....



 

txrattlesnake said:

Sounds like I've been right all along. Gears 3 on the nextbox coming in 2010.  They had better try to get a new franchise fixed up for the console they plan to follow 360 + with because both Halo and Gears will be extremely venerable in 2014 and in going on 8 years in the console business they've only come up with two internal franchises capable of moving systems and as stated both will be ancient by the time they release next nextbox.

Nexbox = 360+...you can still paly the game on the 360, but it's just better on the 360+...I need a new elite anyway!



"...You can't kill ideas with a sword, and you can't sink belief structures with a broadside. You defeat them by making them change..."

- From By Schism Rent Asunder