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Veggie said:

The only thing holding Nintendo from the majority market share is the fact that it isn't HD. I bought a Wii on launch day. A year later I bought a 360 because I wasn't able to play games like Call of Duty 4 or Assassin's Creed. The main weakness of the Wii is how much it compliments a two console set up. If Nintendo were to release an HD version that was on the same level as the 360 or PS3, then it would be able to truly pull away from the competition. Square Enix would jump at the chance to put Final Fantasy XIII on the Wii. Capcom would put Resident Evil 5 on it. We'd see Bioshock and Assassin's Creed and Metal Gear Solid. And guaranteed profits for any company involved. The only question would be when is the best time to release a Wii HD? And when will Sony and Microsoft release their next consoles?

THIS. But I think thats all part of upstreaming cause as Iwata mention before the next Wii will HD. By the time Sony & Microsoft have their motion controls strageries solitified Nintendo would have already passed them.

...One thing that I don't know if it applies but to me it plays the part of disruption is all of the Sony, and Microsoft, as well as 3rd parties attempt to make Mario Kart Wii, or the serious nature of the Fitness genre now. Everyone is DEFINITELY following Nintendo's lead.



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bardicverse said:
Onyxmeth said:

Welcome to 2006.

Sweet! That means theres still 5 days to stop myself from marrying that evil b*tch!

If only it was that easy sir! LOL!



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senortaco said:

THIS. But I think thats all part of upstreaming cause as Iwata mention before the next Wii will HD. By the time Sony & Microsoft have their motion controls strageries solitified Nintendo would have already passed them.

A HD successor is not a part of upstreaming. It will happen as an inevitable side effect of the decreasing cost of technology. Upstreaming involves improving the service of the new values (motion control in this case).



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Demotruk said:
senortaco said:

THIS. But I think thats all part of upstreaming cause as Iwata mention before the next Wii will HD. By the time Sony & Microsoft have their motion controls strageries solitified Nintendo would have already passed them.

A HD successor is not a part of upstreaming. It will happen as an inevitable side effect of the decreasing cost of technology. Upstreaming involves improving the service of the new values (motion control in this case).

Thanks! I still get what IS and ISN'T confused at times...I'M A TECH GUY DAMMIT NOT A BUSINESSMAN!!!!



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I'll give a serious answer when I see a serious effort put in by Nintendo to move upstream.

I love Nintendo. I have owned every Nintendo console ever made, aside from the Virtual boy. I've owned every peripheral, every Mario, Metroid, basically every first party nintendo game. I would really love for Nintendo to come out next gen with an HD console and up the storage capacity and give me games with the length and content and maturity I want, no, need. It makes me giddy to think about it. Nintendo could totally destroy everyone next gen if they did it. But if they did they would not make nearly as much money, and for that reason they won't. This is no disrespect, this is just how it works.

For now, let's wait and see how well Motion+ games fare, and see how well "hardcore" games increase in sales. Until then, neither side can prove their case. You say it'll work, I say it won't. We can make a bet or leave it at that.



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Alterego-X said:

I disagree. 

It is relatively easy to downgrade a game's graphics. PC games lowest and highest settings often have about a console generation's difference between them, and it is an obligatory part of any PC orientated game. Even multiplatform games have this to certain extent. 

The true barrier is the Wiimote. Every HD game is also designed for a radically different gameplay. Visuals can be changed. The whole gameplay can't. 

This is also why PC gaming is dying. The exclusives work perfectly, but simply applying the controller-orientated gameplay to the keyboard, doesn't work.

That's the thing. A company won't downgrade the graphics to make a game workable on the Wii. Most of the time they'll keep the game to the HD consoles only (Bioshock) or release different versions that compliment the Wii (Dead Space). Every now and then you'll get a company that has the manpower and budget to release a game across all platforms (Call of Duty). Now if all the HD multiplatform games were on the Wii as well, that would decrease the need for Wii owners to have to go out and buy a 360.

 

The controller is the furthest thing from a barrier however. The controller is what made the whole disruption thing work. Companies that take the time to make the game work with the controller will have it pay off, as is the case with EA. Tiger Woods 09 on the Wii outsold the 360 and PS3 versions combined.



theprof00 said:
I'll give a serious answer when I see a serious effort put in by Nintendo to move upstream.

What is "a serious effort to move upstream", in your mind?



A game I'm developing with some friends:

www.xnagg.com/zombieasteroids/publish.htm

It is largely a technical exercise but feedback is appreciated.

something like Metroid other M.



theprof00 said:
something like Metroid other M.

That's not upstreaming at all... nothing like it. (unless it uses Wii M+, we don't know that yet)

 

If you want to argue about Nintendo making stuff you want, that's a totally different discussion, we're talking about disruption as a business strategy that Nintendo is undertaking.



A game I'm developing with some friends:

www.xnagg.com/zombieasteroids/publish.htm

It is largely a technical exercise but feedback is appreciated.

theprof00 said:
....... I would really love for Nintendo to come out next gen with an HD console and up the storage capacity and give me games with the length and content and maturity I want, no, need. It makes me giddy to think about it. Nintendo could totally destroy everyone next gen if they did it....


The next console will be HD.

Storage capacity? Can't say it's my highest priority but I'm sure it will be more than 20GB.

Length and content and maturity? You mean you want to pretend to be some kind of soldier, just say it.

I'm confident Nintendo will destroy everything next gen.



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