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Forums - Gaming - what if I said.. GT PSP lookes almost as good as FORZA 3?

monlosez on 03 June 2009
jesus kung fu magic said:
alvaroaze said:

yeah, almost as good :rolleyes:


http://www.joystiq.com/2009/06/03/hands-on-gran-turismo-psp/

"During the conference, we stated the game looked just as good as GT4 on PS2. Upon closer look on the PSP go, it's clear that the visuals are downgraded a bit."

so they are not even on PS2 level, lolz

Then WTF is leo-j showing us?

I see like 64 colors max.



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Staude on 03 June 2009
monlosez said:
jesus kung fu magic said:
alvaroaze said:

yeah, almost as good :rolleyes:


http://www.joystiq.com/2009/06/03/hands-on-gran-turismo-psp/

"During the conference, we stated the game looked just as good as GT4 on PS2. Upon closer look on the PSP go, it's clear that the visuals are downgraded a bit."

so they are not even on PS2 level, lolz

Then WTF is leo-j showing us?

I see like 64 colors max.

I'm guessing that's the old gt portable concidering the new one is based on gt 5 and not gt 4 .. AND YOU SEE IT ON THE PSP WITH A CAM

 

 

lol wtf man XD



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alvaroaze on 03 June 2009

what part of the interface is different? its the same as the one in the 1st post.

the video looks good because its blurry, so you cant see the imperfections. just look at the rpm bar on the right side. in the video it looks like a solid bar, but in the screenshot you can clearly see its like | | | | | |



Akvod on 03 June 2009
jesus kung fu magic said:
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ssj12 said:
I think this isn't a fair comparison because GT PSP doesn't need to run at an insane resolution like GT5 and Forza 3.

Now that trailer for GT5 vs Forza 3... there is no comparison. GT5 >>>>> Forza 3 especially in the car models.

Well of course it is , the GT trailer was cgi so.....

How do you know it's CGI?

Because they barely talked about the game , the game that is part their biggest franchise was treated as an after thought because all they showed for it was a teaser a cgi teaser at that.

I still don't understand why you can conclusively, with all absolute confidence, that it is a FACT that the trailer was CGI?

Because unless sony is run by stoned out monkeys , it s practically imposible for sony to not hype a gameplay trailer for their BIGGEST game.(Especially with the forza "definitive racing game" stuff put on yesterday)

It's still not "impossible" like you said, it's only your suspcions based on the fact that you don't know what Sony's thinking and rationale (since you're not in the company). I'm asking you to show me concrete, objective proof how the trailer (or parts of it) were CGI, no matter how illogical you may think Sony is acting:

 

 

 

Why do you believe that it is gameplay?

Have I ever claimed it was gameplay? No. Now you're being caught red handed, trying to switch the topic at hand and put the attention on me.

You made a claim, and I simply asked your reason. I won't doubt it if at least some parts of it were CGI. I simply don't have the expertise to know it or not. On the other hand, because you made a claim, extremely confidently, you surely must have some expertise and concrete facts/proofs to show that the entire trailer or parts of it were CGI.

I'm simply a person asking questions, not making claims, not really debating, only pressing the same question that you keep avoiding.

First of all , you did not even put your point into the discussion so I assumed that your stance on the trailer was gameplay because of you trying to interogate me.

Secondly, I do believe that it is cgi because of the points I put above , and you dont need concrete proof to make an educated guess. Whos to stop me from saying gta 5 will release on the n-gage in september if we need concrete proof to say other wise?

And I answered your questions ,all of them. I honestly dont know what your trying to do but you know as well as I do that my points are valid so why continue this?

If somebody asks you a question, and presses for an actual reason when you avoided to give one, means they're opposed or hostile to you? I was never hostile to you, at most only annoyed that you kept avoiding answering my question. You use the word "interrogate" which I think is pretty excessive. Lets not play word games, and replace "ask" with "interrogate" to make me sound like I'm hostile. I'm sorry that I didn't forget my question, and continued to ask you to just answer it when you failed to do so the first time.

You needed concrete proof because you stated that it was a fact that the GT5 trailer was CGI. You didn't say "I think", "probably", etc. You said "Well of course it is , the GT trailer was cgi so....." That doesn't seem like an educated guess, to me.

I asked you to give me concrete objective evidence, in order to back up your statement that was presented as a fact. All you said was "It'll be weird/stupid for Sony not to hype up this game and trailer at E3". They're not valid, because as much as your argument might make sense to the common sense of many, they're not objective facts, which are needed to support factual statements. You can't just support a factual statement with opinions and perspectives.

So we can stop this now, as you've admitted that you don't have concrete evidence, and you never meant to say that the GT5 trailer was CGI as a fact, and you actually meant to say it as a guess. It's a simple and common mistake of mispeaking/typing, just say from the beginning "Oh, I didn't mean to say it as a fact, it's just my opinion/guess", instead of wasting a few posts before saying that.

I have answered your questions but you keep trying to change them to be within the context of hypothetical(and frankly impossible) situations. Its not my problem if you ignore what I'm saying but at least disagree with them and not act like they dont exist.

And yes quite frankly your interogating me , your singling me out of everyone who is saying its cgi or gameplay making it seem what im saying is any different from them.

It is extremely  common in the gaming industry for trailers not talked about alot being cgi , its nothing new and I dont know why your even argueing with this.

Of course there is no concrete evidence that but the way I see it , its fact>logic>being illogical , there is no fact that its not cgi but it is definitely logical to say its cgi with the points I put above and definitely illogical to say otherwise. So until it is proven other wise , that teaser was cgi with touched up replay videos.

I asked you to show me the parts which were CGI (unless the whole thing was CGI), and to present objective facts and evidence that it's CGI. I remember somebody arguing that it wasn't CGI due to clipping going on in one of the screenshots. That's an example of someone with some ammount of knowledge/experise and using that to argue it.

On the other hand your entire argument was "It is extremely common... for trailers not talked about alot being cgi". That's not concrete proof that backs up your statement: "Well of course it is , the GT trailer was cgi". You should have then said "It's probable that it's CGI".

Unless you can calculate that the probability of it not being CGI is extremely slim to the point of being pretty much 0 (which I don't know how), you have so far absolutely no objective, VISIBLE, proof that the entire trailer was CGI, as you originally stated (I like how you change your position without simply admitting you made a mistake, didn't clarify enough beforehand).

 

Look, I'm not arguing that the trailer was CGI, or that it was all in game footage. I have NO EXPERTISE and knowledge to even analyze the video to give proof and evidence that it was CGI or not. Because you originally stated, as a fact, that the entire trailer was CGI, I expected you to easily have the expertise and ability to say "You can clearly see in this frame, or at X:XX that it's CGI". Rather, you just skipped the question, and said "Well it's weird if they didn't hype this trailer up" or "Most trailers that aren't hyped up are CGI".

So just man up, and said you made a mistake. That instead of presenting your statement as a fact, you meant to state it as an educated guess. That you meant to say "Probably".



FKNetwork on 04 June 2009
leo-j said:

As the thread title states.. Ive found something spectacular for both racing fans and PSP fans.. what is the best looking handheld game to have ever released, or be shown to date..

 

GRAN TURISMO PSP

dare I say it? Graphics almost as high quality as FORZA MOTORSPORT 3 on a NEXT GEN console.

Need proof? Here it is =D

I'm guessng your joking?

Considering Forza 3 looks a lot better than GT5:P your also saying that GT PSP looks better than GT5:P, very good!

 

Looks very nice for a PSP game though,



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shams on 04 June 2009

It looks great for a PSP game, but not even in the same league as Forza 3 - which is comparable to GT on the PS3.

If you still think so, you are either blind - or a fanboy :)



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Mvp4eVa on 04 June 2009

@OP.  You said it,  WHAT IF? but is not..



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ironman on 04 June 2009
Gamer4eva said:


Bottom line. GT5 will obliterate Forza 3, there is no point argueing about this. Graphics it is better, game play it is better, sales wise it will do better, the game will be bigger and more diverse than Forza. This is like argueing Resistance is better than COD4, uhh no. COD4 was better in like nearly everyway apart from scale.

What does that have to do with this thread? You sir, are trolling.

As for the rest of you who seem to think the GT PSP looks better than Forza3. I laugh at you. Ironman looks like hi def on my 3.5" LCD cellphone screen with MP4 encoding straight from a DVD rip. I put it on my 1080P 42" LCD tv, well, it's not too impressive. I think the O.P. was reasonable in suggesting it looked ALMOST as good a Forza 3. I disagree with him due to resolution, and the limits of hardware,  but it is a reasonable statement to make. 



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Alic0004 on 04 June 2009
JaggedSac said:
LOL. That guy playing is about as shitty as I am at these types of games.

that's what I was thinking:  UGH, THAT's GONNA BE ME.



 

Solid_Snake4RD on 04 June 2009

i agree