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It's evident, now more than ever, that Xbox 360 is just a pinch away from becoming a PC. At E3 we just had the confirmation of community sites Twitter and Facebook coming to MS' console, and a digital distribution service for the bigger games.

Almost everything on Xbox 360 has already been done, and in much better way, on PC. Regardless, the similarities have a strong presence.

And now the dilemma: how much would it take for Xbox 360 to be considered a PC? Where is the thin line that seperates both consoles and PCs? Or has that line already been broken?



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Price.

Super powered PC.............. £2000 (with upgrades constantly needed)

VS

Super powered 360.......... £129

If i can get almost everything i can on a PC for a fraction of the price, i'm gonna take the cheaper option...... More value for money.



Ronster316 said:
Price.

Super powered PC.............. £2000 (with upgrades constantly needed)

VS

Super powered 360.......... £129

If i can get almost everything i can on a PC for a fraction of the price, i'm gonna take the cheaper option...... More value for money.

Almost no one buys £2000 PCs. Nowadays a £400 can do a much better job at running games than any console. PC prices have decreased dramatically in the last few years. Hell, you can now build a PC that plays games better cheaper than a PS3.

Many people consider now that PC gaming is cheaper than Console gaming due to the cheaper prices of games, which are often $10-$20 less than the console versions. You also don't need to play $50 every year just to play online.



Ronster316 said:
Price.

Super powered PC.............. £2000 (with upgrades constantly needed)

VS

Super powered 360.......... £129

If i can get almost everything i can on a PC for a fraction of the price, i'm gonna take the cheaper option...... More value for money.

 

Do people honestly still think this is the case for PC gaming? Complete FUD.

My PC was $650 all in and plays anything I care to throw at it and is used for much more than gaming. I also am able to get x360 "exclusives" for $10 less brand new, and often 50% or more off through Steam sales. Free online and better versions of the same games as well.

My advice to x360 fans: Tone down the gaming PC pricing hyperbole.

 



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shio said:
Ronster316 said:
Price.

Super powered PC.............. £2000 (with upgrades constantly needed)

VS

Super powered 360.......... £129

If i can get almost everything i can on a PC for a fraction of the price, i'm gonna take the cheaper option...... More value for money.

Almost no one buys £2000 PCs. Nowadays a £400 can do a much better job at running games than any console. PC prices have decreased dramatically in the last few years. Hell, you can now build a PC that plays games better cheaper than a PS3.

Many people consider now that PC gaming is cheaper than Console gaming due to the cheaper prices of games, which are often $10-$20 less than the console versions. You also don't need to play $50 every year just to play online.


True, PC's can be bought cheap but ultimately cost money to maintain.

But i picked up Stranglehold for £5 and NBA 2K7 for £4 today.

Add to that the £6 i paid for crackdown and the £6 for condemned and 360 gaming really is at your disposal for a more than reasonable price.
 
Sure, XBL cost's £29.99 (shop around) but the console is £159 if you wanna go live, if i pay for XBL for the next 5 years then it still only totals £309 and i never need to worry about upgrade costs.

I apprediate PC gaming and it offers a truly unique experience, but i personally prefer just switching on my 360 and getting in to the online action in an instant.



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shio said:
Ronster316 said:
Price.

Super powered PC.............. £2000 (with upgrades constantly needed)

VS

Super powered 360.......... £129

If i can get almost everything i can on a PC for a fraction of the price, i'm gonna take the cheaper option...... More value for money.

Almost no one buys £2000 PCs. Nowadays a £400 can do a much better job at running games than any console. PC prices have decreased dramatically in the last few years. Hell, you can now build a PC that plays games better cheaper than a PS3.

Many people consider now that PC gaming is cheaper than Console gaming due to the cheaper prices of games, which are often $10-$20 less than the console versions. You also don't need to play $50 every year just to play online.

Unfortunately your argument has no merit seeing how you cannot buy a PC at retail that costs $400 and plays games anywhere near the level of the 360 or PS3.

Not many people shop around for weeks to find the most disclosed deals to make such a budget custom built PC.  Sure many people build their own PCs, but many more just buy them at retail and those never have good enough video cards for $400 or less.



Ronster316 said:
shio said:
Ronster316 said:
Price.

Super powered PC.............. £2000 (with upgrades constantly needed)

VS

Super powered 360.......... £129

If i can get almost everything i can on a PC for a fraction of the price, i'm gonna take the cheaper option...... More value for money.

Almost no one buys £2000 PCs. Nowadays a £400 can do a much better job at running games than any console. PC prices have decreased dramatically in the last few years. Hell, you can now build a PC that plays games better cheaper than a PS3.

Many people consider now that PC gaming is cheaper than Console gaming due to the cheaper prices of games, which are often $10-$20 less than the console versions. You also don't need to play $50 every year just to play online.


True, PC's can be bought cheap but ultimately cost money to maintain.

But i picked up Stranglehold for £5 and NBA 2K7 for £4 today.

Add to that the £6 i paid for crackdown and the £6 for condemned and 360 gaming really is at your disposal for a more than reasonable price.
 
Sure, XBL cost's £29.99 (shop around) but the console is £159 if you wanna go live, if i pay for XBL for the next 5 years then it still only totals £309 and i never need to worry about upgrade costs.

I apprediate PC gaming and it offers a truly unique experience, but i personally prefer just switching on my 360 and getting in to the online action in an instant.

I bought Bioshock for $5 last year, both Max Payne games for only $7.50, Half-Life 1 and it's expansions for only $1 each, World of Goo like $4 just months after it was released, etc... all brand new copies.

And I could've bought much more. That's the greatness of PC gaming, there's so many awesome deals that you don't know where to begin with. Especially nowadays that all major Digital Distribution Services make several deals every week, and you can find dozens of great deals just a few clicks away.

Don't kid yourself, PC gaming is cheaper than HD console gaming.



nightsurge said:
shio said:
Ronster316 said:
Price.

Super powered PC.............. £2000 (with upgrades constantly needed)

VS

Super powered 360.......... £129

If i can get almost everything i can on a PC for a fraction of the price, i'm gonna take the cheaper option...... More value for money.

Almost no one buys £2000 PCs. Nowadays a £400 can do a much better job at running games than any console. PC prices have decreased dramatically in the last few years. Hell, you can now build a PC that plays games better cheaper than a PS3.

Many people consider now that PC gaming is cheaper than Console gaming due to the cheaper prices of games, which are often $10-$20 less than the console versions. You also don't need to play $50 every year just to play online.

Unfortunately your argument has no merit seeing how you cannot buy a PC at retail that costs $400 and plays games anywhere near the level of the 360 or PS3.

Not many people shop around for weeks to find the most disclosed deals to make such a budget custom built PC.  Sure many people build their own PCs, but many more just buy them at retail and those never have good enough video cards for $400 or less.

Not for $400, but you can find a gaming PC for $500 at retail. A friend of mine just bought a $600 gaming laptop which easily plays better than any console.

But it doesn't matter because all the extra money you put initially in your PC will later be saved from buying the much cheaper PC games, and not having to pay for playing for online.



Thread title and OP are inaccurate..

What does Facebook and Twitter have to do with games?

You add that you have to add the browser addon..

O wait, the 360 is the only console that doesn't have a browser... go figure..



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shio said:
nightsurge said:
shio said:
Ronster316 said:
Price.

Super powered PC.............. £2000 (with upgrades constantly needed)

VS

Super powered 360.......... £129

If i can get almost everything i can on a PC for a fraction of the price, i'm gonna take the cheaper option...... More value for money.

Almost no one buys £2000 PCs. Nowadays a £400 can do a much better job at running games than any console. PC prices have decreased dramatically in the last few years. Hell, you can now build a PC that plays games better cheaper than a PS3.

Many people consider now that PC gaming is cheaper than Console gaming due to the cheaper prices of games, which are often $10-$20 less than the console versions. You also don't need to play $50 every year just to play online.

Unfortunately your argument has no merit seeing how you cannot buy a PC at retail that costs $400 and plays games anywhere near the level of the 360 or PS3.

Not many people shop around for weeks to find the most disclosed deals to make such a budget custom built PC.  Sure many people build their own PCs, but many more just buy them at retail and those never have good enough video cards for $400 or less.

Not for $400, but you can find a gaming PC for $500 at retail. A friend of mine just bought a $600 gaming laptop which easily plays better than any console.

But it doesn't matter because all the extra money you put initially in your PC will later be saved from buying the much cheaper PC games, and not having to pay for playing for online.

Links to such deals?  Remember, the Xbox 360 and PS3 can output HD games at 1920x1080 resolution, so the video card necessary for a PC or Laptop to do such a thing would need to be a 9800GT/HD4770 minimum, and to have max settings and solid frame rates you would probably need around the GTX 260/HD 4870 coupled with a fast dual core CPU or better.