Oh yeah. This is Sony SHIPPING 11 MILLION CONSOLES WORLDWIDE. Not in one region but all regions combined so far. This is not consoles sold to us gamers but sold to the retailers. Even if Sony makes the target of 11 million from now to Mar. 2008, what are the odds of all of those consoles being bought by us.

So many people got ripped off so far and that's pretty much every one that bought a 60gb and 20gb PS3.  I would not wat to get ripped off that's for sure.  I would rather wait it out until Sony gets something good AND permenant out to the market.


Ok so what if they make the target and they don't sell as well as they had hoped (no price cut...remember) they might just rip off all of the 80gb PS3 users as well by releasing either another SKU bundle of higher price or an SKU with a price cut (finally) but they take out a few things to balance out the cost (Umm...I don't know ...A 40gb PS3 WITHOUT EE Chip, No Wifi, Wired Controller, no bundled game for.....$399???)

Lets face it. There's nothing Sony can do at this point, EXCEPT for a $399 80gb PS3 this year offer which ain't happening.

And another SKU is on the way being made by Foxconn it is 40GB and will probably retail for $399(i estimate and the 80GB will go down to $499 so that would be Sony's first real pricecut.

The thing about Sony's 11m target is that they also have a fiscal target of only $500 million loss. They've already blown through nearly half that already. So what's more important? Their physical target or their fiscal target? Because I don't think they can achieve both at the same time.

He is stating the obvious and I am sure a price cut is on the way.

Apparently not everyone understands the mess that Sony created with their financial reports. Sony's TOTAL forecast is of 14.6 million PS3 shipped to retailers by the end of the fiscal year, not 16.5 million as people think.

I created a "setting the record straight" thread a while back which was going to be turned into a news item on vgchartz but it never ended up happening. Here is that thread:

http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=4969

My first and 3rd posts on that thread contain all the explanations and calculations behind this and other interesting numbers. The rest of the thread contains proof of some of the more controversial things that I found out...

Even 14.6 Million is an unlikely target ...

If you look at the current rate of sales (and give Sony a healthy boost for christmas) they will sell between 3.5 and 4.5 Million consoles betweem now and March 31st 2008; this would put them between 8 and 9 million consoles sold which (even with a large buffer) would put them 3 to 4 Million units below their shipment target.

At this point in time, Sony would have to double sales to come close to their target which is unlikley regardless of whether they have a price drop.

Know, I know Sony fans will say I'm lowballing the sales of the PS3 but they made the same claims when I estimated 7 to 8 Million PS3's sold at the end of 2007 which is starting to look too optimistic.

yet again pachter predicts what everyone else has already predicted. Does make him seem better than before though, when he predicted earlier but got it wrong.

I think by Apr1 08 ps3 sell through will be about 10m.... i thought that a long time ago [before 1st quarter was up]

for once... i agree with him =O.... say it ain't so...

... replacing one SKU with another of the same price isnt a price cut.. could have sworn that was common knowledge.

Or they can just look at my signature.

Edit: Btw are these Pachters numbers or TheSource's numbers?

Wii - 23-25 million

360 - 18-20 million

PS3 - 12-14 million