actually crazy, the Wii is a must have alongside HD consoles or a PC etc because it's the only one that's different enough.

actually crazy, the Wii is a must have alongside HD consoles or a PC etc because it's the only one that's different enough.

dcIKeeL said:
Quality......waaaaaayyyy higher now.....popularity.....higher now, what else is there? |
Because almost every game that came out in the golden age added a revolutionary new thing to gaming. Today almost every game is a tired clone of something older. Just browse through that golden age article. It's insane. You get things like Space Invaders in 1978, which actually invented the high score. Now people call them "leaderboards" to try to stay fresh, but they're just using busted old high scores from 31 years ago. But they won't fool me!
| megaman.2. said: Games that appeal to 'Casual Gamers and Hardcore Gamers alike'. Please understand this is not an arguments as to which console has the best library but which has to which has the most diverse library. Please voice your opinion, anger, frustration or delight in a professional manner so we can all have a nice discussion. |
- You clearly have no understanding what 'casual' games are. Why do most, if not all, 'hardcore' gamers think their gaming definition is equal to the taste of every possible gamer?
- The wii wins hands down with the most diverse library. If the PS3 had the most diverse library, it would be winning. It's really that simple.
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Akvod said:
First off, your whole paragraph doesn't make sense... at least divide it into a numbered list if you're going to number things. If you're tired, then don't type such an eyesore. |
I edited my post so your eyes won't malfunction, but keep in mind that i wrote it with mostly megaman in mind. Therefore certain parts only he would understand as they are things he said later in the this thread.
dcIKeeL said:
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My eyes are functioning perfectly, it's your giant paragraph that needed to be fixed.


The Ghost of RubangB said:
Because almost every game that came out in the golden age added a revolutionary new thing to gaming. Today almost every game is a tired clone of something older. Just browse through that golden age article. It's insane. You get things like Space Invaders in 1978, which actually invented the high score. Now people call them "leaderboards" to try to stay fresh, but they're just using busted old high scores from 31 years ago. But they won't fool me! |
It's unfair to expect the same level of innovation in this era than in that era because there are now a million games or so, most likely more. How many games were there then??? The industry was so new anything would be something 'innovative'. Considering how many games and consoles have been released by the start of this era, I would say there is alot of innovation going on. Games are much grander now, storytelling is reaching epic proportions, motion controls, cameras, 3D gaming, online play, new genres the list goes on. Not to mention games now are nearing the same level of popularity as films. You can quite possibly play alongside your grandma now. Call it misguided, incorrect or w.e, but the era in which the particular industry was most popular is generally regarded as the 'golden era'. There is no argument there.
I don't see what's so particularly diverse about that list of games. I mean we've got three racing games(two of which are from the same franchise), and a shit ton of games primarily about shooting enemies(inclusing two first person shooters). On top of that, the list of upcoming games that are supposed to continue the diversity are mostly made up of sequels of currently released PS3 games(Uncharted 2, Gran Turismo 5) and a game cut from the same cloth as Heavenly Sword(God of War III), so how does that make the console more diverse? I would think sequels would be the least likely titles to diversify a console lineup.
Frankly, if we're talking about diverse lineups, your answer is the Wii. Why even argue this?
| dcIKeeL said: first, your thread title makes no sense, and i'm aware this was pointed out but, when we look back will the ps3 library be the golden library of this gen? or video game history? elaborate. Secondly, owning all current gen consoles doesn't make you neutral. Having a quote that states: "Known to many as the sony leader but i'm an entertainer at heart" completely discredits your neutrality. Thirdly, you say this discussion isn't about the best game library but most diverse yet you point out the ps3 having "the best game this gen". I mean what does the best game have to do with diversity? The tone you use suggests you made this thread to flaunt the ps3 library as the supposed best and this tone argument is well supported by your golden era/golden period term that, although misused suggests you meant diversity as a stand in for BEST library. Fourthly, you put ratchet and clank in two different categories. Fifth, how the hell does valkyria chronicles appeal to casual gamers??? Sixth, heavenly sword, buzz quiz tv, eyepet....seriously??? Seventh, I wouldn't call heavenly sword, warhawk, uncharted the most casually appealing games. Lastly, MGS4 winning best game this gen within a very small gaming community that does not accurately sample the gaming audience as a whole is not very valid. Mass effect and bioshock have equal right to dispute that title and in my opinion were more innovative than MGS4. |
You pretty much summed it up.
In all seriously, the best game this gen is highly subjective, and saying as VGChartz's goty doesn't make that fact. In fact, arguably, it's been agreed that PS3 fan/fanboys are more populated than any other branch (I said arguably). Gamefaqs, actually recently gave SSBB goty, from polls. Also highest rated game this gen is GTA IV (although if you combine the 360 and PS3 reviews, it would be second), and highest rated exclusive goes to SMG.
Also saying that you don't want to debate over which console has the better library, but bolding claim that the PS3 does is kind of stupid as well as saming which library has the greatest game which I argued against above. I would have to disagree, and while I am as well a PSWii60 owner, and have to say that my Wii gets played the most =). I like it's games the best, and the PS3 really hasn't been impressing me as much lately (although I am pretty psyched for GT5 =) ).
I know you aren't trying to start a flame war and did put in good points about the other consoles, but I would respectfully have to disagree with you. I do not think that it is the "golden age of gaming for this gen" (although I do think Sony held that title with the PS1).
And you should not call yourself neutral when you are known to sway more to the PS3 side and even openly state in yoru sig that you are recognized as the "Sony Leader." And I don't think I'm neutral either, and know I tend to sway more to the Nintendo side even though I own all three consoles.

| Onyxmeth said: I don't see what's so particularly diverse about that list of games. I mean we've got three racing games(two of which are from the same franchise), and a shit ton of games primarily about shooting enemies(inclusing two first person shooters). On top of that, the list of upcoming games that are supposed to continue the diversity are mostly made up of sequels of currently released PS3 games(Uncharted 2, Gran Turismo 5) and a game cut from the same cloth as Heavenly Sword(God of War III), so how does that make the console more diverse? I would think sequels would be the least likely titles to diversify a console lineup. Frankly, if we're talking about diverse lineups, your answer is the Wii. Why even argue this? |
I agree with mostly everything except the final statement. I honestly don't think a truly diverse console library exists in this gen as of now. The wii is very high on casual but very low on hardcore as of now. Many games on the ps3/360 libraries are completely absent on the Wii or of comparble low quality.
Again, I don't think any console has a truly diverse library.
dcIKeeL said:
It's unfair to expect the same level of innovation in this era than in that era because there are now a million games or so, most likely more. How many games were there then??? The industry was so new anything would be something 'innovative'. Considering how many games and consoles have been released by the start of this era, I would say there is alot of innovation going on. Games are much grander now, storytelling is reaching epic proportions, motion controls, cameras, 3D gaming, online play, new genres the list goes on. Not to mention games now are nearing the same level of popularity as films. You can quite possibly play alongside your grandma now. Call it misguided, incorrect or w.e, but the era in which the particular industry was most popular is generally regarded as the 'golden era'. There is no argument there. |
Exactly. I think that's why it's the golden age.