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Mojo said:
The developers may be content with sales of 500k but it's obvious they were /expecting/hoping they would be significantly higher. I still can't figure out how some of these games sell so poorly. The have now sold over 50 million consoles. That means for a game to sell 500k they are only being bought by 1% of the Wii market. Those numbers are terrible.


     This is a good post.  Actually, No More Heroes with a Metacritic score of 86 has sold less 1/100th of the sales of Wii Sports with a Metacritic score of 76.  This is indicative that either the blue ocean gamers don't pick up core games in traditional genres or  that the Wii's audience for some huge reason doesn't appreciate M games so companies shouldn't put them there if they want to profit from them. 



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Platinum studios and Clover games do not sell well, whatever platform they are put on. You chose a quote from a man with no wii games under his belt saying he wants his game to sell better and twist that into developers being unsatisfied with their Wii games. It makes you lose a lot of credibility.



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txrattlesnake said:
No. It's not a troll thr ead and it raises a very specifiic point. Core games on the Wii don't sell.
It's a fact. All three of those games have higher aggregate review scores than Wii Sports, Wii Fit, Mario Kart Wii, and Wii Play. And similar games to those games (even some with lower aggregate review scores have sold much better on 360 and PS3). The reason for poor sales for these games on Wii is because the new gamers that Nintendo has attracted with the blue ocean strategy don't know what the review scores are or what games are supposed to be high quality games. And, it is something that could lead to a glut of Wii _____ type games being made on Wii instead of core games in traditional genres.

I was going to give you the benefit of the doubt that maybe this wasn't a troll thread until you posted this. Now it's pretty obvious that you came here to troll and did a poor job of covering the tracks leading from your bridge.

Core games sell on the Wii. It's a fact. People wouldn't be cherry picking the same 2-3 games and moving goalposts if it wasn't true. It would simply be a state of being. It would not need threads like this, poorly conceived and mostly irrelevant. Kamiya never even mentioned the Wii. Somehow I don't think you thought your cunning plan quite through.

The one thing elitists never realize is that no one cares about aggregate review scores. No one ever did. Metacritic is a recent addition to the internet. There was no metacritic during the arcade era, atari era, NES era, SNES, PS1, etc. For the majority of gaming this silly thing people have been worshipping did not exist. This is why I don't understand where it's sudden faux-importance on the sales of video games has come from. It wasn't relevant then and it's not relevant now.

The only people that cling to sites like metacritic now are marketers and fanboys. Fanboys so they can use it in their list wars about how their exclusive has a 2% higher rating then the competition's, and marketers so they can sucker fanboys in like that based on something pointless like a number.



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Killergran said:
Platinum studios and Clover games do not sell well, whatever platform they are put on. You chose a quote from a man with no wii games under his belt saying he wants his game to sell better and twist that into developers being unsatisfied with their Wii games. It makes you lose a lot of credibility.


Read mojo's post.



txrattlesnake said:
Killergran said:
Platinum studios and Clover games do not sell well, whatever platform they are put on. You chose a quote from a man with no wii games under his belt saying he wants his game to sell better and twist that into developers being unsatisfied with their Wii games. It makes you lose a lot of credibility.


Read mojo's post.

I did. Now why don't you read mine again.



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txrattlesnake said:

@routsounmanman

 

Yeah, well close to 3 million copies of Uncharted, and over a million copies of The Crackdown and Saint's Row One on 360, (and some others, I don't feel like posting stats all night, so you can go look at the list of top selling games on both 360 and PS3 (Another that immediately pops to mind though is Resistance 2 selling more than Metroid Prime 3), say, "Hi."

And Bioshock sold much better on 360 than any fps game on the Wii (a console with 20 million more sales than the 360), so that also says, "Hi."

I used a PS3 port and a niche game to judge PS3 core games sales, like some people do for the Wii. And let's see, SSBB, Mario Galaxy, and other didn't sell that bad. I acknowledge the fact that a large portion of the Wii install base doesn't buy games, and that "hardcore" games are harder to sell on the platform, but I still think it's a viable platform to develop on.

Most of the time, Wii owners are not given the incentive to buy games, as they are either low quality efforts, missing features (for multiplatform titles), are old or whacky ports, or are too niche to sell well. I think it's common sense that a RE6 exclusive to the Wii would sell tons, maybe even at RE5 levels (both platforms combined).



The list of the top 50 best games on Wii according to Metacritic and a list of the top 50 best selling games on vgchartz, don't match up at all the way that these two lists match up on 360 and PS3.



txrattlesnake said:
Mojo said:
The developers may be content with sales of 500k but it's obvious they were /expecting/hoping they would be significantly higher. I still can't figure out how some of these games sell so poorly. The have now sold over 50 million consoles. That means for a game to sell 500k they are only being bought by 1% of the Wii market. Those numbers are terrible.


     This is a good post.  Actually, No More Heroes with a Metacritic score of 86 has sold less 1/100th of the sales of Wii Sports with a Metacritic score of 76.  This is indicative that either the blue ocean gamers don't pick up core games in traditional genres or  that the Wii's audience for some huge reason doesn't appreciate M games so companies shouldn't put them there if they want to profit from them. 

No More Heroes has a Meta score of 83.

No More Heroes is getting a sequel, why?  NMH is a traditional game now?

You compare it to the highest selling game of all time which dwarfs sales of most games. 

I thought Wii Sports sales don't count because it's a pack in.

You conveniently failed to address any of the posts pointing out that the guy you quote in the OP has never made a game for the Wii and is not talking about Wii games.

If you are going to try to make a point you could try to get your facts straight or at the very least acknowledge when you have made an error.  Otherwise this is just ANOTHER, hardcore games don't sell on the Wii thread.  You think core games shouldn't be made for the Wii but the list of developers who disagree with you is growing now on a daily basis.

 

 



The same thread as ever, core games can sell if they are so great and have many ads. If not people will only know the main Nintendo games, so Wii Fit, Wii Play (Wii sport is not an example, only in Japan it's not in bundle with wii). If the conduit sells good this thread should be very funny!



CURRENTLY PLAYING: Xenoblade (Wii), Super mario 3D land (3DS), Guild Wars (PC)

 

hsrob said:
txrattlesnake said:
Mojo said:
The developers may be content with sales of 500k but it's obvious they were /expecting/hoping they would be significantly higher. I still can't figure out how some of these games sell so poorly. The have now sold over 50 million consoles. That means for a game to sell 500k they are only being bought by 1% of the Wii market. Those numbers are terrible.


     This is a good post.  Actually, No More Heroes with a Metacritic score of 86 has sold less 1/100th of the sales of Wii Sports with a Metacritic score of 76.  This is indicative that either the blue ocean gamers don't pick up core games in traditional genres or  that the Wii's audience for some huge reason doesn't appreciate M games so companies shouldn't put them there if they want to profit from them. 

No More Heroes has a Meta score of 83.

No More Heroes is getting a sequel, why?  NMH is a traditional game now?

You compare it to the highest selling game of all time which dwarfs sales of most games. 

I thought Wii Sports sales don't count because it's a pack in.

You conveniently failed to address any of the posts pointing out that the guy you quote in the OP has never made a game for the Wii and is not talking about Wii games.

If you are going to try to make a point you could try to get your facts straight or at the very least acknowledge when you have made an error.  Otherwise this is just ANOTHER, hardcore games don't sell on the Wii thread.  You think core games shouldn't be made for the Wii but the list of developers who disagree with you is growing now on a daily basis.

 

 

No More Heroes is listed as the 22nd best Wii game.  Wii Sports is listed as the 78th best Wii game.  Wii Sports shouldn't count as the NPD doesn't count it, but VGChartz counts it and says it is the best selling game of all time.