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The Fury on 28 May 2009
naznatips said:
outlawauron said:
Well, Birth By Sleep is the definitive portable KH. (It's the only one that isn't a spin off of existing events, it's a prequel)

And I imagine whoever these handheld games got dumped to will not be working on KH3. The team that will, will be working hard on Versus XIII.

*facepalm*

They are all spinoffs. Prequels are spinoffs too. BBS is a prequel to KH and 358/2 is a prequel to KH2. Both are new plot information, and both are absolutely spinoffs. And neither game is being made by the actual Kingdom Hearts team. Nomura is however the director for both games, and Watanabe is the scenario writer for both games (as well as the original KH games). Get over yourself. I expect better than this load of BS out of you.

I hate people sometimes.

Whether or not his use of the term spin-off is wrong, he still makes a point I kind of agree with. That being BBS being more involved in KH3 then 358/2 will be. This is only due to the plots in the games, one tells of Roxas and his 'adventures' in Org 13, the other involves totally new characters (where one apparently looks just like Roxas...I hate Roxas) and seems a bit out of place. Meaning that BBS is surely a prequal to KH3's plot. Much like Chains of Memories was to the start of KH2...

...unless I'm confusing things/myself.



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Phoenix_Wiight on 28 May 2009

link won't work :(



naznatips on 28 May 2009
The Fury said:
naznatips said:
outlawauron said:
Well, Birth By Sleep is the definitive portable KH. (It's the only one that isn't a spin off of existing events, it's a prequel)

And I imagine whoever these handheld games got dumped to will not be working on KH3. The team that will, will be working hard on Versus XIII.

*facepalm*

They are all spinoffs. Prequels are spinoffs too. BBS is a prequel to KH and 358/2 is a prequel to KH2. Both are new plot information, and both are absolutely spinoffs. And neither game is being made by the actual Kingdom Hearts team. Nomura is however the director for both games, and Watanabe is the scenario writer for both games (as well as the original KH games). Get over yourself. I expect better than this load of BS out of you.

I hate people sometimes.

Whether or not his use of the term spin-off is wrong, he still makes a point I kind of agree with. That being BBS being more involved in KH3 then 358/2 will be. This is only due to the plots in the games, one tells of Roxas and his 'adventures' in Org 13, the other involves totally new characters (where one apparently looks just like Roxas...I hate Roxas) and seems a bit out of place. Meaning that BBS is surely a prequal to KH3's plot. Much like Chains of Memories was to the start of KH2...

...unless I'm confusing things/myself.

You are. BBH is a prequel to KH, not to KH3. In other words as far as relevance goes it's probably the least relevant to the 3rd game. Giving nothing but history to the KH universe.

If you want to talk most relevant, KH: Coded is the only one that actually takes place after KH2. But since western cell phones are peices of shit, we won't see that outside of Japan.



frictionini on 28 May 2009

he said a spin-off of existing events. Just like what he said



 

naznatips on 28 May 2009
frictionini said:
he said a spin-off of existing events. Just like what he said

... words fail me.

The events before KH existed just as much as the events before KH2. Neither story has been told yet. There is no difference here but the crazy twisted stuff going on in your head.



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frictionini on 28 May 2009
naznatips said:
frictionini said:
he said a spin-off of existing events. Just like what he said

... words fail me.

The events before KH existed just as much as the events before KH2. Neither story has been told yet. There is no difference here but the crazy twisted stuff going on in your head.

Nope, I'm just stating my opinion.

 

I'm just more interested in the prequel rather than the story of 358/2...

 

You're too being defensive. If you can look again the way he said it, you can tel that he meant both games as spin-offs

 

"(It's the only one that isn't a spin off of existing events, it's a prequel)"

 

But that's just me and I don't care anymore.

 

 



 

outlawauron on 28 May 2009
naznatips said:
The Fury said:
naznatips said:
outlawauron said:
Well, Birth By Sleep is the definitive portable KH. (It's the only one that isn't a spin off of existing events, it's a prequel)

And I imagine whoever these handheld games got dumped to will not be working on KH3. The team that will, will be working hard on Versus XIII.

*facepalm*

They are all spinoffs. Prequels are spinoffs too. BBS is a prequel to KH and 358/2 is a prequel to KH2. Both are new plot information, and both are absolutely spinoffs. And neither game is being made by the actual Kingdom Hearts team. Nomura is however the director for both games, and Watanabe is the scenario writer for both games (as well as the original KH games). Get over yourself. I expect better than this load of BS out of you.

I hate people sometimes.

Whether or not his use of the term spin-off is wrong, he still makes a point I kind of agree with. That being BBS being more involved in KH3 then 358/2 will be. This is only due to the plots in the games, one tells of Roxas and his 'adventures' in Org 13, the other involves totally new characters (where one apparently looks just like Roxas...I hate Roxas) and seems a bit out of place. Meaning that BBS is surely a prequal to KH3's plot. Much like Chains of Memories was to the start of KH2...

...unless I'm confusing things/myself.

You are. BBH is a prequel to KH, not to KH3. In other words as far as relevance goes it's probably the least relevant to the 3rd game. Giving nothing but history to the KH universe.

If you want to talk most relevant, KH: Coded is the only one that actually takes place after KH2. But since western cell phones are peices of shit, we won't see that outside of Japan.

Well, I wasn't talking about Coded for the reasons you mentioned. And my understanding is that 358/2 takes place during the events of the first Kingdom Hearts and tells what the Organization was doing.

I know Nomura is ultimately in charge of it, but the Kingdom Heartsteam isn't making these games. I thought it was similar to Final Fantasy IV DS where Matrix software did the actual porting with a few key guys overseeing the project.



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naznatips on 28 May 2009

Aside from some programming assistance by HAND for the multiplayer functions on DS, all 3 games are made by the same team. A team which has some key staff from the KH games, but is mostly not related to the original 2 games.



outlawauron on 28 May 2009
naznatips said:
Aside from some programming assistance by HAND for the multiplayer functions on DS, all 3 games are made by the same team. A team which has some key staff from the KH games, but is mostly not related to the original 2 games.

Which is what I thought. When these are finished, I don't expect them to start Kingdom Hearts 3 right away.



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Christhor on 28 May 2009
naznatips said:
The Fury said:
naznatips said:
outlawauron said:
Well, Birth By Sleep is the definitive portable KH. (It's the only one that isn't a spin off of existing events, it's a prequel)

And I imagine whoever these handheld games got dumped to will not be working on KH3. The team that will, will be working hard on Versus XIII.

*facepalm*

They are all spinoffs. Prequels are spinoffs too. BBS is a prequel to KH and 358/2 is a prequel to KH2. Both are new plot information, and both are absolutely spinoffs. And neither game is being made by the actual Kingdom Hearts team. Nomura is however the director for both games, and Watanabe is the scenario writer for both games (as well as the original KH games). Get over yourself. I expect better than this load of BS out of you.

I hate people sometimes.

Whether or not his use of the term spin-off is wrong, he still makes a point I kind of agree with. That being BBS being more involved in KH3 then 358/2 will be. This is only due to the plots in the games, one tells of Roxas and his 'adventures' in Org 13, the other involves totally new characters (where one apparently looks just like Roxas...I hate Roxas) and seems a bit out of place. Meaning that BBS is surely a prequal to KH3's plot. Much like Chains of Memories was to the start of KH2...

...unless I'm confusing things/myself.

You are. BBH is a prequel to KH, not to KH3. In other words as far as relevance goes it's probably the least relevant to the 3rd game. Giving nothing but history to the KH universe.

If you want to talk most relevant, KH: Coded is the only one that actually takes place after KH2. But since western cell phones are peices of shit, we won't see that outside of Japan.

and it's the only one that's concept was created while Nomura was drunk. The only one I personally think looks any good is BBS, even though I couldn't play any of the others even if I wanted to. Org. XIII was IMO the worst part of KH2, and I would never want to play a game based on Org. XIII Org. XIV... and puzzle games bore me, so Coded is out