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MaxwellGT2000 said:
FKNetwork said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:

 

Now as for the beaten and tired excuses you make, it's called trolling, and for that there is reporting...

What a surprise, Maxwell reporting someone lol, you report about 10 people a day, it's like second nature to you, anyone you don't agree with you report, superb!

Uh no?  And how would you know how much I report, the number of people I report is much lower then 10 a day and 90% of the time I don't bother talking to them, but if I do decide to talk to them and then they blatantly start the name calling like everyone that thinks Wii remote works better for FPS are fanboys then yes I will report you, as most people should.

It's clearly a troll. You were right to report.



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Anyone remember when analog sticks came out? How long did it take you to get proficient at it? Most likely wasn't instantly, was it? I remember it well. After using a D-pad for 11 years prior (and joysticks before that for several years) the analog stick felt too liberal. You had to guide it with precision far more than the D-pad.

Then came the Wii remote and I relived that learning experience all over again. The IR function felt too liberal at first. Coordination and motor skills were not developed to master this new function yet. After time, just like the analog stick, the nuances of the IR control became involuntarily contained and the skills increased.

Once mastered it provides a much more accurate method to aim at a target and better still multiple targets (imagine playing Link's Crossbow Training with dual analogs). The speed and precision over analog sticks became much more apparent as my time with the Wii remote increased.

Now some may refute this claim and state others still believe dual analogs to be superior but to those I've spoken with (which includes dozens of my colleagues in the media) we've all found the Wii remote to offer the best controls for FPS's on home consoles.

And finally, people tend to be graphic whores before control whores and therefore sales of multiplatform FPS's on Wii are far more indicative of the graphic disparity between the consoles and not the quality of the controls. To put it another way - HD console owners call Wii graphics bad but Wii owners don't call dual analog controls bad, just not as good. See the difference?



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FKNetwork said:
 all this boils down to is your both very upset because MW:2 isn't coming out on Wii,

Umm, it -IS- coming out for the Wii as well. This is like the 4th thread on the subject.

Seriously people, knock it off or I'm calling North Korea on you.



bardicverse said:

knock it off or I'm calling North Korea on you.

Don't do it!!!



...You could have said it nicer network. Either way, I agree that there are some people who defend the Wii at all costs, while ignoring its major shortcomings.



 

 

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This is playing CoD 4 with a Wii Remote, as you can see it's a lot more precise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EXeun_GGcI&translated=1 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VR7W6nLNP4 

 

What do controls have to do with sales? 

An article I wrote to Nintendo.

When a game is out for an entire month and has only sold 66,000 copies, that's a problem. That means it's time to stop marketing the Wii as a casual-only console. Have you wondered why many hardcore games don't sell on the Wii? It's mainly because they are not marketed whatsoever. I mean just look at Metroid Prime 3: Corruption's sells, sure it can be considered very successful, but let's compare it something like The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess. It's sales figures are not very stellar compared to Zelda. Compare Metroid Prime 3's 1M+ units to Legend of Zelda's 5M+ units, then you can clearly see the gap. The reason is because you [Nintendo] marketed Metroid Prime 3 very casually. When you have elderly people and children gathered around smiling in an airport, then there's an issue. This game is not meant for that demographic, why did you market it to them? This is the same thing Nintendo has done with Call of Duty: World at War. Remember last year at E3 Media and Business Summit 2008? Here's a heads up, when you have adults smiling and giving each other a high five in an M rated game, there's clearly an issue that needs to be resolved. World at War is not intended to be for the casual demographic, yet Nintendo marketed it as if it were suppose to be. Then when we look at the sales figures of the game (Wii: 1.09M units) and compare it to the other versions (360: 5.33M, PS3: 3.19M), someone flubbed up with the marketing of the game. Was it Activision-Blizzard? Was it Nintendo? The answer is clearly Nintendo, don't just allow your third parties to do the marketing, you should be willing to step in as well. Look at Microsoft and what they do with 360 software. And then look at how well their games sale. A marginal difference from what you see on Nintendo's home console. Maybe the reason why the Wii sales are slowing down in Japan is because the casuals aren't buying games anymore. Guarantee you, this will carry over to North America as well. In case you didn't know, casuals do not buy games very often, nor do they play them often. And when you are marketing to a group of people who do not buy, or play your games often, of course sales are going to slow down. It's clearly time to move away from them, and start showing some ads on some games that's for a different demographic, or the Wii will die out in a year or so, just like the Gamecube. Satoru Iwata is going around wondering "what's happening to the Wii in Japan?" What's said above is clearly what's happening. It's time to move on. Nintendo is forgetting all about the people that got them where they are presently. Don't you think it's time to start marketing to them now. Take a hint, start telling your third parties to actually market their hardcore games like hardcore games, and not these casual "cop-outs." It would deeply impact sales of a game, and maybe even respect of a game. I can't tell you how many people laughed at the way Call of Duty: World at War was marketed at the Nintendo Press Conference at E3 2008, and how Metroid Prime 3 was marketed by the "Wii would like to play" guys. As said many times before, it's time to move on. 

Now this makes me wonder what Nintendo is going to do with marketing High Voltage Software's upcoming game The Conduit. Are you going to market the game casually, even though High Voltage has said on many occasions "this game is what hardcore Wii owners have been waiting for?" Please don't ruin the reputation of the game by putting "diddily daddily" smiling people shooting people in your ads of the game. This is especially for your E3 2009 presentation which probably will contain this game. Since Nintendo has said that this year's E3 is for the "core gamer," casuals shouldn't be mentioned whatsoever. And the on-stage demos should be of the hardcore games, not of anything for the casual demographic. It's time to get serious Nintendo, it's time to stop isolating yourselves from the rest of the competition, and start marketing properly.



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Really, IR pointing by a proficient enough Wii owner almost emulates Mouse+Keyboard combo, the one which preciseness is yet unrivalled. Stop spewing out nonsense.

Just accept Wii CAN (BIG BIG CAN HERE) handle FPS much better than HD as HD can SHOW FPS way better.



Crazybone126 said:

This is playing CoD 4 with a Wii Remote, as you can see it's a lot more precise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EXeun_GGcI&translated=1 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VR7W6nLNP4 

 

What do controls have to do with sales? 

An article I wrote to Nintendo.

When a game is out for an entire month and has only sold 66,000 copies, that's a problem. That means it's time to stop marketing the Wii as a casual-only console. Have you wondered why many hardcore games don't sell on the Wii? It's mainly because they are not marketed whatsoever. I mean just look at Metroid Prime 3: Corruption's sells, sure it can be considered very successful, but let's compare it something like The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess. It's sales figures are not very stellar compared to Zelda. Compare Metroid Prime 3's 1M+ units to Legend of Zelda's 5M+ units, then you can clearly see the gap. The reason is because you [Nintendo] marketed Metroid Prime 3 very casually. When you have elderly people and children gathered around smiling in an airport, then there's an issue. This game is not meant for that demographic, why did you market it to them? This is the same thing Nintendo has done with Call of Duty: World at War. Remember last year at E3 Media and Business Summit 2008? Here's a heads up, when you have adults smiling and giving each other a high five in an M rated game, there's clearly an issue that needs to be resolved. World at War is not intended to be for the casual demographic, yet Nintendo marketed it as if it were suppose to be. Then when we look at the sales figures of the game (Wii: 1.09M units) and compare it to the other versions (360: 5.33M, PS3: 3.19M), someone flubbed up with the marketing of the game. Was it Activision-Blizzard? Was it Nintendo? The answer is clearly Nintendo, don't just allow your third parties to do the marketing, you should be willing to step in as well. Look at Microsoft and what they do with 360 software. And then look at how well their games sale. A marginal difference from what you see on Nintendo's home console. Maybe the reason why the Wii sales are slowing down in Japan is because the casuals aren't buying games anymore. Guarantee you, this will carry over to North America as well. In case you didn't know, casuals do not buy games very often, nor do they play them often. And when you are marketing to a group of people who do not buy, or play your games often, of course sales are going to slow down. It's clearly time to move away from them, and start showing some ads on some games that's for a different demographic, or the Wii will die out in a year or so, just like the Gamecube. Satoru Iwata is going around wondering "what's happening to the Wii in Japan?" What's said above is clearly what's happening. It's time to move on. Nintendo is forgetting all about the people that got them where they are presently. Don't you think it's time to start marketing to them now. Take a hint, start telling your third parties to actually market their hardcore games like hardcore games, and not these casual "cop-outs." It would deeply impact sales of a game, and maybe even respect of a game. I can't tell you how many people laughed at the way Call of Duty: World at War was marketed at the Nintendo Press Conference at E3 2008, and how Metroid Prime 3 was marketed by the "Wii would like to play" guys. As said many times before, it's time to move on. 

Now this makes me wonder what Nintendo is going to do with marketing High Voltage Software's upcoming game The Conduit. Are you going to market the game casually, even though High Voltage has said on many occasions "this game is what hardcore Wii owners have been waiting for?" Please don't ruin the reputation of the game by putting "diddily daddily" smiling people shooting people in your ads of the game. This is especially for your E3 2009 presentation which probably will contain this game. Since Nintendo has said that this year's E3 is for the "core gamer," casuals shouldn't be mentioned whatsoever. And the on-stage demos should be of the hardcore games, not of anything for the casual demographic. It's time to get serious Nintendo, it's time to stop isolating yourselves from the rest of the competition, and start marketing properly.

Isn't it Sega's job to market the Conduit and decide whether it should have casual or hardcore adverts?



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im_sneaky said:
...You could have said it nicer network. Either way, I agree that there are some people who defend the Wii at all costs, while ignoring its major shortcomings.

Your right, I should have been a bit more "considerate" seeing as Wii owners do seem rather touchy lol



It is both the publisher and the company that owns the console. Just like how MS markets games that aren't from them.



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